Talk:Lucky Luciano/Archive 1

Archive 1

Funny

This article is a good read but the literacy of the authors is at times hilarious. Under the Cuba section, Batista was not president of Cuba when Lucky arrived. And Lucky did not "run" the casinos. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.240.137.27 (talk) 02:42, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Luciano and Lansky

At 10 years he was arrested for the first time on a count of shoplifting. During this same year he met his long time friend Meyer Lansky. Long time friends? Lansky was 5 y.o. in 1907 )) 217.197.113.45 03:55, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Right, but he is a long term friend. It's like saying you met your wife. Shes not your wife yet, but nevertheless...

Jesta510 19:36, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Luciano & Lansky II

It says that he met Lansky in 1907, but i have read in one Meyer Lanksy's Biographys that he came to America sometime between 1909 and 1911 so how did he meet Lucky Luciano in 1907

Luciano's role in Sicilian resistance during WWII

The claims that Luciano helped organize against Mussolini in Italy may be exaggerated. Lucky himself was not the one who had ties and connections with Italia, but had to go through Joe Bonanno and Joe Prefaci.

Lucky actually extorted the United States into having to deal with his mafia. The U.S. government new their docks were not secure and Lucky capitalized on this. He had a ship that was suppose to transport American troops to Europe blown up to show the government that the mafia controlled the docks. They quickly worked out a deal with the mafia and no more sabotage or strikes occurred. Later during the invasion of Sicily, whole towns fell by just going to the local godfather.

Did he also extort the United States to use the European Mafias as anti-unionists, strike-breakers, assassins, "disappearers" of "dissidents", etc? - LamontCranston 20:14 06 Dec 2005 (UTC)

He sure suckered 'em on the docks at home; there was no Axis effort there, 'cause FBI rounded up the agents Abwehr tried to send & the Brits controlled the would-be spymaster, Popov (Tricycle). Trekphiler 08:01, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

That does not answer my question. LamontCranston 18:10, January 7 2006 (UTC)

Under Luciano's reign, the mob used bribery to control some unions around the time of the incident on the SS Normandie. Therefore, it would be easy for the mob to persuade them to end their strikes. They weren't used as assassins by the government, nor did they arrange the disappearances of any dissidents. It was reported that our military and intelligence agencies used his Mafia connections to remove Communist influence in local governments and resistance organizations, but that's about it. User:Anonymous 12:15 AM CST, 6 May 2006.

Siegel and Lansky were known for donating money to the war against hitler and mussolini. Luciano didn't have much of an opinion, he was in jail and getting out was his only concern. After the Normandie incident the Navy Dept approached Luciano (Longshoreman had dropped his name) to help secure the NY docks. He would only help if he got to a new state pen and was allowed visstors. This was the year 1942. In 1943 the Navy department approached Luciano about helping to communicate to sicillian resistance fighters about the impending invasion. The job of the sicillian resistance (many who were mafiosi) was to secure brdges and viaducts for the quick movement of U.S troops to Palermo. These facts can be verified through Luciano's biography and Frank Costello's biography. The U.S navy has never disclosed the liaison.

Interesting to note is the speed of British and U.S troop movement through the sicillian campaign and the casualties. Letting the reader discover these facts themselves is the best way of being convinced.

Hankerchiefs dropped from U.S airplanes prior the invasion of Sicily are rumored to still exist in Sicily in the hands of the Dons that rule today, they are inscribed with a L, said to be the officiado of one Lucky Luciano. Demercurio 00:49, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

"New" information provides quite a bit more info on this subject; however, I learned of it via a documentary on the History/Military channel, and haven't checked the original sources from that program. If someone feels ambitious, this section could use an update. As of this writing, the documentary can be viewed here: http://military.discovery.com/videos/secret-war-the-mafia-joins-the-war.html

Secret War : The Mafia Connection

Episode 1, "The Mafia Connection"

Synopsis: With the fate of the free world in the balance, the US government turns to the head of the New York Mafia for help, and gets far more than they bargained for in return.

Original air date: January 3, 2012

~Eric F 184.76.225.106 (talk) 18:22, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

L.A. Confidence

I've heard Luciano had a relationship with Thelma Todd, which got her killed when she refused to let him use her club/restaurant as a base. I'd be curious to know more about bootlegging & corruption out there. It's said LAPD was the most corrupt PD in the US, & (almost?) every politician & DA was on the take. Trekphiler 07:53, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

The LA connection with New York was through the Dragna Brothers, this was until firstly Mickey Cohen started enterprises in competition to the Sicillian brothers. Then Ben Siegeal was sent to LA because of his inability to stop doing the dirty work and manage a "crew". Prior to the unification of the so called "syndicate" in 1931 -32, a solely sicillian organisation called "Unione Sicillione" connected the "sicillian born barons" across the U.S. Luciano having direct involvement with Thelma is possible, he murdering her is unlikely, his name being used to intimidate or authorise events was possible but perilous if found out. LA was not Lucky's concern. Managing the east coast was hard enough. The 1933 election was looming and for the syndicate the democratic convention in Chicago in 1932 was their total focus.Demercurio 00:26, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

SS Normandie

Supposedly Lucky Luciano may have had some involvement with the burning of the SS Normandie ocean liner, thereby proving to authorities his authority on getting things done... Don't know if it is just a rumor.

In Lucanio's book, the Last Testament of Lucky Luciano, Luciano claims that Albert Anastasia (who was serving in the U.S Army at this time) brought this angle to Luciano's attention while he was serving in the Dannemora State Pen (a harsh place where Luciano was feeling the stress). The U.S navy's incompetency was relied upon to perpetrate the incident and their predictable behavior after the event gave Luciano he was out of Dannemora and a reliance on the syndicate to "help" out in the war.Demercurio 00:25, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

For more information on what happened to this ship, see the entry on Albert Anastasia. User:Anonymous 12:18 AM CST, 6 May 2006

1942 (started at Januar) German Submarines destroyed some ships near the Eastcoast; many officials feared, there was a lot of spions working in the docks and harbours. The day the Normandie sunk, many people think in this way, an assumed an act of sabotage. But it was still an accident !!! But maybe Luciano play his cards well. --Chikago (talk) 08:15, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Edits

Someone with knowledge in the area should edit the WWII section... Not only is it erroneously titled (most is about Heroin traficking) but it digresses from the subject.MrPMonday 07:57, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Lucky was a numbers runner

I researched Luciano for a project in school a number of years ago, and there's a few items in the article that conflict with what I remember. I have to say that unfortunately I know longer have the paper I wrote, so I cannot cite sources, but the problems I had were...

1. Lucky, a bootlegger?? In all the literature that I've read, Lucky was NOT cited as a bootlegger. His main rackets were numbers (which was a mafia ran lottery). I'm not saying that he had no business in bootlegging what so ever, but he was primarily known as a numbwers runner. I vaguely remember some quotes from Capone and other gangsters (as well as movie quotes) which Lucky is refered to as a pimp. I hope that the information in this article wasn't based on movie storylines (like the piece of shit Mobster which was grossly inaccurate). Prohibition appealed, proved to be wrong, and thus a bootlegger is less villinous than the still illegal and morely revolting prostitution racket. A pimp protagonist is far more off-putting than the bootlegger who's simply refusing to follow an unjust law.
2. I'm not sure if this is a conflicting bit of information, or simply omitted. Luciano's first incounter with Bugsy was Lucky kicked the shit out of him. I don't remember exactly how the story goes, but Bugsy either refused to pay for services render by one of Lucky's girls or he was herassing one of them. Either way, Lucky beat the shit out of Bugsy. I wonder if Lucky used baby powder on the pimp slapping hand back then??
3. Why is there no mention as to Lucky's name "Lucky"? There are two versions, first is that he was lucky with the cards, and second (the much cooler version) stems from an incedent that he luckily survived which his neck was severly slit (which some say caused his lazy eye which is very noticable in that first photograph in the article.

Again, this is from research I did close to 10 years ago, and I no longer have the paper nor the source materails, which is why I'm commenting here instead of trying to make changes. But please, Let me know if you have more information in these and can back me up. --Spectwon 07:09, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Reading about Arnold Rothstein and following the downward movement of alcohol procurement (from scotland and canada)and distribution throughout the East coast, you can see that Luciano was the number one organiser of bootlegging in New York city, better still read his book in conjunction with Meyer Lansky and Frank Costello's biography's. Pimping was what his soldiers mainly did between guarding liqour shipments and naturally they used their bosses name to exert authority. You probably couldn't earn 10 mill in one year in 1929 just pimping (nickel and dime type rackets). The pimping thing is what Dewey nailed him on, Lucky's flaw was that he did not discipline his "crew" or distance himself from the pimp racket, and captains go down with their ship. Demercurio 00:49, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Please stop quoting Lucky's "Autobiography" .. it has been proven to be a fictional hoax solely produced by the author. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.129.47.75 (talk • contribs)

Recent edits

I made some changes to the information in relation to Maranzano's plot to kill Lucaiano and friends. Al Capone by historical timeline was no longer a force within the outfit. Frank Costello, a Calabrian, and Meyer Lansky, a Jew, were targeted by Maranzano on racial grounds. the multicultural aspect was one of the main reasons he hated the "young turks" and Luciano in particular. I am happy to make more amendments but will wait any possible collaboration opportunities. My sources for informtion are the biographies of Luciano, Lansky, Costello and Dutch Schultz. The Playboy Illustrated History of Organised Crime by Richard Hammer is a great read. Online you can't go past crimelibrary.com and of course the greatest resource of all - wiki. Demercurio 16:27, 1 October 2006 (UTC) ~ No offense, but if those are your sources, maybe you should let others contribute instead.

Last Testament

Luciano's (or his biographers) version of the events at Scarpato's and elsewhere, as recounted in his "Last Testament" are the definitive example of gangland history being written by the survivors. In the accounts of the death of Masseria there is never any mention of his having had any bodyguards in attendance. That he would trust Luciano so far as to travel to the seaside and dine alone with him is beyond belief. Joe the Boss would not have been sitting with Charlie Lucky in Scarpato’s completely unguarded. But wherever you read the story of his death no mention is made of the bodyguards who would surely have been present when the car containing Luciano's men pulled up across the street. Also how credible is the assertion that Ciro Terranova was driving the getaway vehicle? Masseria and Terranova were Morello vetrans and known to have a close relationship. Or that Maranzano, the architypal "Sicilian Supremacist", would entrust the job of killing his young rival to Irish loose cannon Vince Coll, rather than use his own men? It seems unlikely. It's quite possible that Maranzano, contrary to Luciano's claims, may not have been plotting his death at all at this time. Did Luciano really agree to meet Maranzano alone? or was he taken unawares and abducted? and what really happened that night out on Staten Island? However in each case Lucky Luciano is the only man who both survived to tell the tale and had the inclination to. In reading the book it is not difficult to discern that every event is slanted in order to show Luciano or his close friends in the most favourable light while the reputations of his rivals are undermined and disparaged As he neared the end of his life, the opportunity to put one over on his enemies one more time, by painting himself as America's great criminal mastermind must have amused and appealed to Lucky. And to a large extent, to date, Luciano has had his way, his was the only first hand account of events, at least until Joe Bonnano decided to follow his lead and attempt to expand his role in history with a book of his own. Seveb 05:18, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Flawed

The problem is that a few of your sources were flawed. The Last Testament of Lucky Luciano has been proven to be a flase biography solely produced by the author. Which explains the inconsistencies present throughout the entire account. The main sin involved revolves around the fact that later bios reflected "facts" found in that bio and form the outright lies told by Dixie Davis and thus you have a very skewed history.. Even supposed insiders like Valachi began recountign some of the false tales told by Dixie Davis to the press. Also in the pieces you did mention, you will not find one account of Maranzano intending to kill Meyer Lanksy. And at the time of Maranzano's death Al Capone was still very much a force in the Outfit. He was still about 5 months away from being imprisoned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.215.252.167 (talk • contribs)

I agree about the bias in the biography, and it has to be taken with a view that this was Luckys chance to rewrite history. In relation to Capone, he was not a significant decision maker, St.Valentines had seen Al become too hot to handle, the real secretive mafiosi didn't want their name in the papers and steered clear of him. Al was really just living on a violent reputation at this time. Ever since his hit on Frankie Yale, the NY boys wanted little to do with him, how to get rid of him without causing a huge amount of heat was more the issue.

It's possible that Maranzano didn't know Lansky personally but he did know that Luciano mixed with Jewish associates. Guys such as Bo Weinberg, Longy Zwillman, Waxey Gordon and of course Rothstein (who may have been killed by either Maranzano or Masseria)were known by those loyal to Maranzano to be affilliates of the young mafiosi. Maranzano was kept informed by loyal guys like Tony Bender about who the young turks mixed with and what other big city bootleggers came to town to visit.

As for Valachi it would be like asking a doorman at the Trump Tower to comment on the life of Donald Trump.

If you have definitive resources available, please contribute to this article, we need good contributorsm like yourself to discern legend from fact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.129.47.75 (talk • contribs)

-- The best resourse is actually the www.nytimes.com They have archives that stretch back the entire existence of the paper. You'll catch little tid-bits like Lucania being on the boat with Legs Diamond when it landed in Ireland in August of 1930(which explains his absence during the majority of the wars of that period).

You also find that MadDog Coll and Dutch Schultz had zero to do with the baby killings as the one person bystanders did identify was Mike Copolla who they mistakenly said was a member of Coll's gang. His intended victimw as Anthony Strobino a convicted narcotics dealer (Not Joey Rao as many have later tried to say) and it becomes pretty clear that that incident has Luciano's hands on it, not Schutlz.

You also find that Luciano had little to do with Rothstein and at the time of Rothstein's death he was supposedly feuding with Diamond and his allies over a supposed narcotics double cross. When brought in for questioning Diamond said "Rothstein had so many enemies it could have been anyone". Though I would say Masseria and especially Maranzano are two people anyone would rule out.

ans yes Valachi can't be taken serious in regards to what he knew about the higher workings of the mob, however he has proven to be significantly more honest than Bonanno. FBI bugs had many mafia members wondering if he was senile when he wrote his book due to his revisionist history. All and all you pretty much begin to realize that the Last Testament was a hoax (the writer never could produce the supposed hours of taped convos and slowly began to back off his claims of it being an auto-bio) and a string of books that foolishly quoted it and Dixie Davis (Meyer Lansky Mogul of the Mob, Uncle Frank, Tough Jews, numerous Mafia encyclopedias, etc, etc) are works done by men too lazy to do quality research and who would rather pass on the same shotty information you find in previously released books no matter how wrong it is... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.224.192.143 (talk) 17:38, 11 February 2007 (UTC).

It is incorrect to say that "The Last Testament of Lucky Luciano" is a biased biography. It is a fraud. The quotes inside were manufactured by Martin Gosch, the producer who was with Luciano when he died. There is no evidence that Gosch met with Luciano more than a few times, certainly not the many number of times required for the many notes he had. The alleged Luciano quotes contradict too much confirmed history. It was rejected by the FBI and New York Times journalist Nick Gage reviewed and rejected the book in an article. More and more Mafia historians are coming to realize that the book is a literary fraud. Any and all references in the Luciano article that used this fraudulent book as a source should be removed. Again, the book is not a biased or self-serving account, it is a fraud that Luciano did not contribute to in any way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RickW7x2 (talk • contribs) 23:00, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

500 men

It said that he ordrered the execution of 500 men.Is this correct? The H-Man2 14:45, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Balzac quote

the quote at the end is not from Luciano its from Balzac http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Honor%C3%A9_de_Balzac please change it and if you don't believe me check with the godfather book —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.143.137.188 (talk) 23:54, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Charlir91's page move

This article should be located at Lucky Luciano as per WP:COMMON, this new user moved it to Charles Luciano last month with nobody agreeing, he didn't even discuss. - Animagentile (talk) 02:21, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Problem with bibliography entry

This seems to read too much like a book. The titles of the sections are almost annoying and show nothing as far as the stage in Luciano's life. In order for this to come off as a legit bio, something needs to be done to improve the quality of the entry. -Jabbottman (talk) 06:35, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

The "Family"

My aunt Ruthie was married to Lucky before he died but she isn't on the list what-so-ever. And also, my best friend Jackie Provenzano's Uncle, Tony Provenzano, was part of the Five Families in New York. He was a capo, but again, I don't see anything on their personal relationship. They must have obviously known each other. Can anyone help me? Nessie2813 (talk) 01:24, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, I may not be able to help too much but my connection to the family is missing as well. One of my grandfather's relatives, I think a sister, married in Lucky's family, making him my uncle by marriage. Unfortunatly, my family was ashamed of our relationship to my uncle Lucky so they tried to keep it a secret from me. All I know is what I heard by hiding around corners and evesdropping. Now that most of my family has passed I'm trying to track my uncle's history and my connection to him. I do know that our family are Lucianos and his family were Lucianos. Not uncommon to have a Luciano not related to another Luciano, marrying each other since Luciano is a very common name, like Smith or Jones. My grandfather was George (Georgio) Luciano of Seaside Heights NJ and his first wife was Mary Luciano. His second wife was Kay Luciano. My dad's name is George J. Luciano. My dad and grandmother were born in Newark NJ. I don't have too very much information. Like I said, our family was not proud of its past so I don't have much history to go on. Anyone can help me too? Also, Nessie2813, you have to be related to me. Let's talk sometime. Your Aunt Ruthie has to be my aunt too!! Wow!! That is a start in the right direction. Melody Luciano Waring fourltleindians@hotmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.71.219.41 (talk) 23:50, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Can you provide any evidence of your claims? Nietzsche 2 (talk) 19:54, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I doubt it. All his family names are Luciano, while Lucky was actually named Lucania. ChrisRoad (talk) 01:04, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

The Apalachin Meeting was a historic summit of the American Mafia held on November 14, 1957 at the home of mobster Joseph "Joe the Barber" Barbara in Apalachin, New York. (from Wikipedia)

Apalachin should not be confused with Appalachian, as this article does! Apalachin is in the state of New York, while the Appalachian Mountains traverse this state, but also encompass others. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.237.183.2 (talk) 16:06, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Tony Provenzano was part of one of the Five families, but not at the time of the formation of The Commission in 1931. Provenzano was born in 1917 and would have been 14 at the time of the Commission's forming. The original families were headed by Luciano, Joe Profaci, Joe Bonanno, Frank Lucchese, Vince Mangano. When Luciano went to jail, Genovese headed that family. Provenzano was a member of that family, but spent quite a bit of his time and energy working with Jimmy Hoffa and the Teamsters in New Jersey. He rose to the rank of caporegime in the Genovese organization, but to my knowledge never headed a family.70.190.89.78 (talk) 15:46, 21 January 2010 (UTC)rcampbell

No credibility or citation to following statements

Upon arrival in New York City, Luciano's parents settled in a Jewish neighborhood on the Lower East Side. They lived at 265 E. 10th Street in what is now the Manhattan East Village. Here, Luciano set up his first operation: he shook down young Jewish children on their way to school. This was where he allegedly met Meyer Lansky and Benjamin "Bugsy" Siegel.

There's no source saying he settled in a Jewish neighborhood in the Lower East Side. Nor is there any source of there address. Where'd the author get this information? The next sentence is purely comical though. Who ever this is says next operation like it's the military. Shake down Jewish children on their way to school? Even if Wikipedia's not totally reputable and relies on non-sourced infomration, this isn't a senseless blog. Quotes like that make it that. TomNyj0127 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:16, 5 September 2009 (UTC).

Lower east side of Manhattan was completely Jewish in the beginning of 20th century. The area between Brooklyn Bridge to e15 street on the east side was full of hardcore religious Jews. I haven't looked at the source, but if Luciano lived on E10th street in years 1900-1920, than he was surrounded by Jews.

It is a fact that Luciano met Lansky and Bugsy when they were still teenagers. How is it known? There are biographies of mobsters who state that this was a known fact. Luciano at the end of his life also was writing a screenplay regarding his life. References are needed in article, i agree.

Which part seems comical and unrealistic to you? That a teenage Luciano would subsidize his income by stealing 'lunch money' from kids on their way to school? Luciano was a player, hustler, drug dealer. He didn't meet Lansky in the synagogue or in the library. It was on the street, and Lansky must have done something to impress Luciano. Does that make sense? Meishern (talk) 05:56, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Why is there no citation for the allegation that Dewey got people to lie and ultimately framed Luciano? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.246.21.22 (talk) 18:22, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it was the "kinda probably" that first alerted me as I was skimming this article as to how poorly written it really is. This article needs an overhaul. CA Jim (talk) 08:01, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Really, really badly written and inaccurate

This immediately annoyed me:

"For the splitting of New York City between five different Mafia crime families and the establishment of the first commission, Luciano is considered the father of modern organized crime in America."

Citation needed, methinks. In the Sixties, Cola gentile revealed that New York City was already split between "five or six" Mafia families prior to Luciano's rise, and that The Commission wasn't a particularly new or unique invention; Mafiosi were already meeting for informal rounds of consultation to discuss business, murder, etc, just as Mafiosi in Sicily had already been doing for a century and change.

Then this:

"In 1999 Time Magazine listed Lucky Luciano as one of the most influential people of the XX century, chosen in part because “he modernized the Mafia, shaping it into a smoothly run national crime syndicate focused on the bottom line”."

Just because Time Magazine said something, it doesn't make it true. John Dickie comprehensively demolishes the notion that Luciano was some kind of "business brain" who restructured the mob along corporate lines in his book 'Cosa Nostra.' Added to the fact that the Mafia had been operating in America since at least the 1880s, and must therefore have been running smoothly in the USA since way before Luciano's birth, much less his ascent, then what we have here is an entry shaping up to be a tawdry, true crime-style whitewash of history.

"It is believed by almost all mob experts that Dewey framed Luciano, since Mafia did not bother with prostitution, and also Luciano meeting with hookers to collect money seemed a bit absurd, considering his position as boss."

Look at the above excerpt. Read it out loud. Recoil in horror. The prose reads like a barely-literate True Crime hack got himself an internet connection, pretty much every single claim - not just in that excerpt, but the whole article - is unsourced and clearly false (in light of what we now know about how mobsters have and always will operate), and the general feeling I have is that it would be a waste of time to edit this joke of an entry down to something (a) Readable and (b) Factual, because whoever has elected themselves guardians of this article will doubtless delete any changes made. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.13.199.96 (talk) 00:08, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Well thats the problem with a lot of articles here related to Organized Crime. It feels like someone copied them out of a pulp fiction novel with few or no references. 'So Fat Jimmy thought things over and decided...'. Statements like that dont belong in an encyclopedia unless its a quote.

Luciano was very secretive. For every reference that claims that he was the business brain, you will find another quote that Lansky was his business brain. I disagree that in 1880s Italian Mafia in NY was running smoothly. That was the beginning of Italian immigration and the Irish gangs dominated NY. I dont like the phrase that he is the father of organized crime in america. The book 'Gangs of NY' shows that crime was nicely organized in 1840s and earlier in NY. Meishern (talk) 00:58, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Any connection with the opposite "Lucky Luke" comic/cartoon character?

Any connection with the opposite "Lucky Luke" comic/cartoon character?

Wrong Date Of Birth

If you cannot even get the date of birth right, then how does the rest of the information on this page have any validity. "Lucky" Luciano was born on November 24, NOT November 11; where does this even come from. —Preceding unsigned comment added by

Optimistic View for Luciano

May be most of the people talk about pessimistic views about Luciano.But I must say Luciano did some jobs that have advantages.For instance, he built the greatest city, Las Vegas and he reminds me of something that we should know exactly. That is MONEY. He made his loyal people richer and richer.Due to him, most of the citizens in Italy(after World War II) were rich. Although his crimes were uncountable, I at least found one advantage of his existence.... — Preceding ayechannkoko comment added by Ayechannkoko (talk • contribs) 12:15, 22 February 2011 (UTC) Bugsy Siegel created las vegas not lucky luciano!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.7.233.92 (talk) 18:28, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

References

Removed multiple vague references, some in the same paragraph, to "five families book". Find a Grave was used as a reference and an external link, removed as unnecessary from reference. Otr500 (talk) 18:36, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Name

How did his name go from Salvatore Lucania to Charles Luciano? The article should say.74.68.107.92 (talk) 01:48, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Five Points Gang

Since the WP page [Five Points Gang] mentions Luciano (as a prominent member, etc.), this page should probably reflect that. ~Eric F 184.76.225.106 (talk) 18:47, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Remove Siegel Section

Removed long paragraph on Siegel hit - this belongs in Siegel article, does not pertain directly to Luciano. If anyone disagrees, please give your opinion. Here is paragraph:

The most of the main topics for discussion at the Havana Conference was ordering a hit on Siegel, who was unaware of this meeting. Meyer Lansky, who several times owed his life to Siegel when they were young, took a stand against the hit. He begged the attendees to give Siegel a chance by waiting until after the casino opening. Luciano, who believed Siegel could still turn a profit in Las Vegas, Nevada, and pay back what he owed the Mafia investors, agreed to postpone the hit.

To placate his investors, Siegel opened Flamingo Las Vegas, his still-unfinished casino, on the star-studded night of December 26, 1946, although he did not have as many Hollywood celebrities with him as he had hoped. Soon the Flamingo ran dry of entertainers and customers; it closed after only two weeks in order to resume construction. The fully operational Flamingo re-opened in March 1947. Still dissatisfied, the casino's gangster investors once again met in Havana in the spring of 1947 to decide whether to murder Siegel. Luckily for Siegel, the Flamingo had just turned a profit that month. Lansky again spoke up in support of his old friend and convinced Luciano to give Siegel one last chance. However, when the Flamingo still failed to turn a profit, Siegel's fate was sealed; he was killed by four shots fired through a window at his girlfriend's California home in June 1947.

Rogermx (talk) 23:47, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

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the MM is patrolling this page

the MM is patrolling this page to educate and to remove lies, vandalism and other bile, good day-MM Captain for Aschurch Road and Head Of Security. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.76.79.199 (talk) 19:21, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

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