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A fact from Ludlow Amendment appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 28 February 2007. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Ludlow Amendment was a proposed amendment to the United States Constitution requiring a national referendum for declaration of war?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2007/February.

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Re discharge petition, etc.[edit]

Travb, nice job putting all of this material into the article! I've done my best to improve on your work (sort of "semi-final editing") through the first several paragraphs. (I'll come back for more later.)

The section on the discharge petition seems to be slightly off somehow, the way it's summarized, but I don't know the exact details of what happened, so I couldn't quite put my finger on the problem, to correct it.

"...but at the end of 1937 the amendment got enough congressional support, including the signatures of nearly half the Democrats in the House, to force it onto the congressional floor.

The amendment came closest to overcoming a discharge petition on January 10, 1938, when it was defeated in Congress by a vote of 209 to 188, far short of the two-thirds majority required by both houses of Congress for passage of a consitutional amendment."

Also, from the wording it's probably not entirely clear to readers which way those votes were cast -- linking the 2/3 vote needed to pass the amendment to the discharge motion kind of makes it sound like that also needed 2/3, when it actually only needed a majority. But I'm leaving that alone for now, until the other part gets nailed down. Sorry if I haven't explained the other issue very well -- I hope you can clear it up anyway!

Oh, yeah, one other thing: I think the line about Good Housekeeping Magazine and Roger Nash Baldwin should be moved to the preceeding history section, but I wasn't sure how to sort out the refs. Cgingold 17:06, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is rather confusing, I was thinking about this too. A discharge petition by definition, is to get the document out of commitee.

I will look at it later :)

All of the referenced books are on google print. Just type in "Ludlow amendment" with the quotes.

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In addition, Good Housekeeping Magazine and Roger Nash Baldwin, president of the ACLU endorsed the amendment.

I think this is actually in the right section. It is talking about public support. (not historical precedence) I am going to move the comments of those who are against it to that section. Travb (talk) 18:44, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]