Talk:Máel Snechtai

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"Perhaps then the events of Máel Snechtai's caused some kind of identity disassociation between the Men of Moray and the Men of Scotland.". Máel Snechtai's what? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.75.123.33 (talk) 18:51, 28 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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He is called on his death notice in the Annals of Ulster, "Máel Snechtai m. Lulaigh ri Muireb" (="Máel Snechtai, Lulach's son, King of Moray"), which is a significant terminological development, since previously the titles for the ruler of Moray had either been "King of Scotland" or "Mormaer." The title is repeated for his successor, Óengus (if indeed the latter were his successor).

This is nonsense. He was "king" of Moray because Malcolm III's writ did not run there. The contributor has a rosy tinted view of how these things worked in those days. Moray was regarded as enemy country and the beacon system from Craigelachie shows that trouble was expected at any time. Applying the same term to Angus was a matter of the Irish Annalist not understanding what had changed in the meantime. Freuchie (talk) 16:12, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]