Talk:Maija Isola/GA1

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Reviewer: KJP1 (talk · contribs) 15:15, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Pleased to pick this up. I note the nominator is away until mid August so we may need more than seven days. KJP1 (talk) 15:15, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Quick fail criteria assessment[edit]

  1. The article completely lacks reliable sources – see Wikipedia:Verifiability.
  2. The topic is treated in an obviously non-neutral way – see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view.
  3. There are cleanup banners that are obviously still valid, including cleanup, wikify, NPOV, unreferenced or large numbers of fact, clarifyme, or similar tags.
  4. The article is or has been the subject of ongoing or recent, unresolved edit wars.
  5. The article specifically concerns a rapidly unfolding current event with a definite endpoint.

Source 51 is showing as a permanent dead link and will need rectifying. But no reason to quick-fail. KJP1 (talk) 15:15, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Articles passes quick-fail assessment. Main review to follow.

Main review[edit]

1. It is reasonably well written.

a (prose) The prose standard is high and I'll Pass on this, subject to consideration of the suggestions below:

Lede[edit]

  • "was a leading Finnish designer" - does this mean she was among the best in Finland, or more widely? Perhaps "was a Finnish designer" and her importance can be demonstrated later?
Done.
  • "Her bold colourful designs made Marimekko famous..." - I had no idea what Marimekko was.

Perhaps, "Her bold colourful designs made the fashion company Marimekko famous..."

Done.
  • "including in the World Exhibition Brussels - should this be "at" and is World Exhibition Brussels a title? Perhaps, "including at the 1958 Brussels World Exhibition and ..." If you agree, and change it here, can you follow through in the Exhibitions section.
Done.
  • "lived and worked most of her life in Finland," - perhaps "lived and worked for most of her life in Finland,"
Done.
  • "spent some years working in France, Algeria and the United States" - given that she lived and worked in those places, as she did in Finland, perhaps, "spent some years in France, Algeria and the United States"
Done.
  • "Her granddaughter Emma too designs for the company" - perhaps, "Her granddaughter Emma also designs for the company"
Also done. A word I generally rip out of articles when I begin editing, however!

Early life[edit]

  • "a farmer who wrote song lyrics" - can't quite work out why but this reads oddly to me, "a farmer who also wrote song lyrics", perhaps?
Let's not, if we can avoid it.
  • "They lived on the family farm" - given the next part of the sentence, the "they is "The children worked ....."
Done.
  • "paper dolls with elegant dresses for their homemade paper dollshouse with elaborately decorated interiors" - as "interiors" relates to the dollshouse, perhaps "paper dolls with elegant dresses for their homemade paper dollshouse which had elaborately decorated interiors"
Done.

Marimekko[edit]

  • "the company which gave birth to Marimekko" - ??, perhaps, "the company which became Marimekko"
Said forerunner. The companies were separately registered.
  • "some eight or ten patterns each year" - what, never nine? Perhaps, "some eight to ten patterns each year"
Done.
  • "pressed by her daughter Kristina, starting at age 11" - not sure what this means. Is it that Kristina, from age 11 onwards, pressed the plants which inspired the designs? And did this go on for a number of years? Can't suggest a re-wording as I'm not sure what it's driving at.
  • "It too included about 30 designs, and it made her famous" - two "it"s, perhaps drop the second?
Done.
  • "the lawyer and judge Jorma Tissari" - knowing nothing about the Finnish legal system, perhaps it is possible to be a judge there without being a lawyer. But if it isn't, as it isn't in England, could the "lawyer" be dropped?
Done.
  • "so-called collaboration" - this reads oddly, and rather critically. I appreciate their relationship may not have been easy but it was certainly a collaboration. Perhaps drop the "so-called"?
Done.
  • "In 1971 she separated from Jorma, realizing that she preferred to live alone" - in the midst of her complicated love life - she obviously didn't want to spend all of her time alone - I got muddled as to who "Jorma" was. But then I realised we'd got on first name terms with Tissari. Perhaps "Tissari"?
Done, good catch.
  • "inspired by nature in" - what? Flora / fauna? I suspect "inspired by the scenery of the ..."
Done.
  • "few factories that could print fabrics her way" - "her way" sounds a bit colloquial, and I'm not sure what it means. "to her exacting standards", or "to her requirements" or "to her specifications"?
Done.
  • "they worked in their own studio, in the winter in Helsinki, in the summer in Kaunismäki" - assuming the studio wasn't mobile, should it be "their own studios"?
Done.

Retirement[edit]

  • "Isola worked on painting, not textiles, until her death" - rather emphatic! Perhaps, "Isola worked on painting, rather than textiles, until her death ..."
Done.

Reception[edit]

  • All good.

Legacy[edit]

  • "Somce 2012, Finland's airline Finnair" - "Since 2012, Finland's airline Finnair"
Done (fingers aligned one key off centre...)
  • "to its Asia destinations sporting a blue Unikko print, while an Airbus A330 painted in an Anniversary Unikko has been serving its intercontinental routes" - Finland to Asia seems pretty intercontinental to me. I agree it's what the source says but perhaps "serving its other intercontinental routes"
Done.

Other criteria[edit]

b (MoS) This looks fine but please consider, but not necessarily accept, the suggestions below:
Lede
  • I find the centred quote rather disconcerting, if attractive, and would probably incorporate it. And it's not a GA criterion, but I've just learnt that quotes in the lede must have inline attributions for FA. But ignore my pedestrian objection at will!
I think we're ok on the pull quote, a beast I very rarely press into service but which seems entirely right in this context.
Reception
  • Why do the Lesley Jackson comments become bullets, rather than prose, in the middle?
Fixed.

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

a (references)
  • A few minor issues for consideration below:
  • Marimekko - given this section covers almost the whole of her working life, was she really working just for them the whole time? Even when in the US? It's entirely possible she was, just checking.
Seems that was the case, yes.
  • Exhibitions - do we have a date for the Paris Finlandia exhibition?
Can't find it now, removed.
  • I don't have access to Shimatsukua, but it looks reliable and there's no reason to think it's not accurately quoted, given that the others are (see below).
Agree.
  • Have checked all others and they are, almost, all fine except 51 (see below) and...
  • Link 52 just takes me to the MIA mainpage. Is it possible to link to a page on the relevant exhibition?
Updated the URL.
b (citations to reliable sources):
  • Source 51 is dead and needs replacing. Everything else is fine.
Replaced URL.
  • The penultimate External link is also dead.
Removed.
c (OR):
  • I see no evidence of OR.
d (No evidence of plagiarism or copyright violations):
  • I see no evidence of plagiarism, and neither does the Copyvio checker.

3. It is broad in its scope

a (major aspects)
  • It covers all the aspects / phases of her life and work without....
b (focused):
  • ...straying beyond these into too general a coverage.

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy

  • It is certainly a positive article, but I think it a neutral one. I know nothing of textile design but a Google search, perhaps surprisingly, doesn't bring up any critical commentary on Isola. There is some of Marimekko, in relation to recent accusations of plagiarism, but nothing I can see that would directly relate to this article. So that's a Pass.

5. It is stable

  • Since the failed 2011 Delete request, the article is very stable.
When I rescued it from the forces of blissful ignorance...

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):
  • Not my area of expertise! I see the infobox image and the pattern book photo appear not to be free use but they have entirely credible rationales which works for me. And the article would certainly be the poorer without them. All the others seem fine.
b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  • The images illustrate the article well, are appropriately placed and have useful captions.

7. Overall:

Pass/Fail: On hold - subject to consideration, but not necessarily actioning, of the above comments.
@KJP1: I think we're all done now, thanks for the review and for awaiting my return. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:04, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Chiswick Chap: Sorry for the delay in Passing. Down in Wales for a couple of days photographing a few buildings. Many congratulations - I now consider myself much better informed on 60s textile design. KJP1 (talk) 18:36, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, and I'm glad to hear it! Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:51, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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