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General direction of this article?[edit]

This seems to be the most wanted new article at the moment. But I'm having difficulty understnding what "Mainstream Rock Tracks chart" is supposed to mean. Are people looking for the definition of a Rock Tracks chart, a chart detailing the different genres of Rock? People can't seriously expect Wikipedia to keep a listing of the Billboard Rock Top-40 up to date on here. -SeaFox 19:37, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No, Seafox, it's none of those options you mentioned. It's a seperate chart dealing with the modern rock genre. OmegaWikipedia 13:15, 24 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Van Halen number one singles[edit]

The article mentioned that Van Halen had the most number one singles with 11. But by my count, the total is 13:

1. Pretty Woman 2. Jump 3. Why Can’t This Be Love 4. Black and Blue 5. When It’s Love 6. Poundcake 7. Runaround 8. Top of the World 9. Won’t Get Fooled Again 10. Don’t Tell Me (What Love Can Do) 11. Humans Being 12. Me Wise Magic 13. Without You

--JDK77590 18:41, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Weeks at No. 1 table[edit]

I kind of like the list format of showing the record stays at number one for songs. It's simple and tells you exactly what you're looking at. The table format is a bit obtrusive. --Wolfer68 (talk) 20:58, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have decided to revert it, and left the creator with a good faith edit, thanks to majority. I for one, thought the table was pretty pointless to begin with.--F-22 Raptor ^IV 23:14, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Modern/Mainstream Rock Tracks gone??[edit]

I just checked billboard...all they have know is a chart for rock songs...not 2 specific charts. It seems both formats have been merged together. Is this true and should there be a blurb detailing what happened?69.204.9.236 (talk) 18:43, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Billboard absorbed Radio & Records' charts and now there are several... "Modern Rock Tracks" is now "Alternative"... plus there is "Active Rock" and "Heritage Rock". The new "Rock Songs" chart is a combination of ALL the rock charts. So yeah, there's gotta be a lot of cleanup and modification to these Billboard articles. - eo (talk) 18:48, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

so when do u think the Active Rock and Heritage Rock charts will be available to the new Billboard site?68.223.208.14 (talk) 19:47, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In the June 20, 2009 issue of Billboard, a new chart titled Rock Songs was introduced. This is a new chart, not a new name for the Hot Mainstream Rock Tracks chart. Rock Songs ranks airplay on alternative, rock and triple A radio stations. The other two new charts, Active Rock and Heritage Rock, are derived from the same panel as the former Hot Mainstream Rock Tracks but are split into two different charts. These will run every other week alternating with Alternative and Triple A. I suggest limiting the scope of this article to just one chart—the original chart which ran from March 1981 to July 2009. Piriczki (talk) 13:14, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

so those new charts will come out next week or so?67.191.60.174 (talk) 01:06, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have the first new Rock Charts, aside from the normal "Rock" chart, been introduced yet? If so, where can they be accessed? If not, when are they going to be available? I still only see one rock chart on the new website. bob rulz (talk) 19:55, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

They have been in the print editions over the last few weeks, but I haven't seen them yet on Billboard.com or their pay-site Billboard.biz, which is a complete mystery to me. - eo (talk) 19:57, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently the Hot Mainstream Rock Tracks chart does indeed live on, but it is now only available online by subscription at billboard.biz. Piriczki (talk) 15:41, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I hope the two new rock charts come out this week.67.191.60.174 (talk) 21:35, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Current Billboard Mainstream Rock chart positions can still be accessed for free at www.billboardmagazine.com.-5- (talk) 22:54, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately that site is now redirecting to the new Billboard.com. AcousticSynth (talk) 17:29, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

THIS IS STUPID! We should leave negative feedback on the billboard site, saying we need the mainstream rock charts because the site is garbage without it.67.191.60.174 (talk) 18:06, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Found it: EDIT, NEW LINK: http://polyrhythmsmagazine.wordpress.com/category/charts/ 71.125.163.208 (talk) 00:49, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, new link: http://www.americasmusiccharts.com/index.cgi?fmt=R2&rtmref=americasmusiccharts The Man Who Needs No Introduction! (talk) 01:55, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 17:26, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hot Mainstream Rock Tracks → Mainstream Rock (chart) – "Hot" was only used in the title for a brief period online 5-10 years ago and never in print. "Tracks" was dropped by 2009 (probably earlier). Mainstream Rock is one of the many Billboard charts only available on the subscription-based business portion of its website, and doesn't have a different chart name on its free site (such as Alternative/Alternative Songs, Mainstream Top 40/Pop Songs, Hot 100 Airplay/Radio Songs). More recent articles from primary sources identify the name as "Mainstream Rock":

"The group reaches the top of Mainstream Rock with its first chart entry" (Billboard article: May 10, 2013)
"The track concurrently climbs 24-3 on Alternative, 32-7 on Mainstream Rock and enters Triple A at No. 8" (Billboard article: July 28, 2011)
"On Mainstream Rock and Active Rock, the band becomes the first act in nearly two years to collect three No. 1s from an album" (Billboard article: June 10, 2009)

Older sources that I could find (again primary) refer to the chart by its name at that time:

"Linkin Park's "Numb" tops Billboard's Modern Rock Tracks roundup for the 10th-week, but the cut surrenders the top spot on the Mainstream Rock Tracks chart" (Billboard article: January 15, 2004).

The disambiguator is necessary due to mainstream rock, the radio format, and to where the redirect for Mainstream Rock points. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 19:37, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support Current name of the chart. Piriczki (talk) 13:48, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Chart title[edit]

I don't know all the history, but I see in archives that in 2018 the chart was called Mainstream Rock Songs. I also know it was called Hot Mainstream Rock Tracks at some point (before that?) and now I believe it's called Mainstream Rock Airplay. Just in case someone cares to research the sources a little deeper. --Muhandes (talk) 08:57, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]