Talk:Mali/GA2

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GA Reassessment[edit]

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This article contains a lot of unaddressed citation needed tags, thus failing criterion 1b. I will wait a week before closing this reassessment so editors can have the opportunity to fix these issues.--FutureTrillionaire (talk) 03:36, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi FutureTrillionaire, I haven't reviewed your recent contributions in any great detail, but it seem--from the couple of GARs that I have seen--that you are applying standard in a GAR that are contrary to the GA requirements. WP:GA? requires only that a GA "provides in-line citations from reliable sources for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines". It does not require inline citations for every fact in the article. For articles like Mali and Laura Robson, where the article has dozens of inline citations, but only a few non-contentious statements are missing inline citations, this is not a basis for a GAR. Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:59, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Calliopejen1: I know the guidelines. If a statement has a citation needed tag, that means the statement is "challenged". Explain to me how the statement "mass arrests and torture of leaders and participants" is "non-contentious".--FutureTrillionaire (talk) 18:34, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That message, which I left on your userpage, was not specific to this article. But in this article you also added citation-needed tags to non-contentious things like very general statements about Malian dance--which constituted two of the six or seven (?) tags you used as a basis for this GAR. And if "challenged" meant solely that the reviewer could go through the entire article and mark anything without an inline citation as citation needed and use that as a basis to deny a GA, then the criterion would instead be that all facts be supported with inline citations. This is not the criterion. Calliopejen1 (talk) 01:56, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough, I've removed the citation needed tags for the Dance and transportation passages. However, the statistics and the statement I mentioned above in the article do need citations.--FutureTrillionaire (talk) 02:00, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Result: Delisted. It's been a week. The article's problems have not been completely fixed.--FutureTrillionaire (talk) 01:19, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]