Talk:Malvi language

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If there's nothing else that is called "Malvi", such as a Malvi people, please move the article to Malvi as per the current recommendations.

Peter ^Isotalo 12:57, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Malwi[edit]

There's a new stub article at Malwi (Punjabi dialect), but Malwi redirects to this article. Could someone who know the subject establish whether there needs to be a dab page, a merge, or anything else. PamD (talk) 08:48, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Both are named after the region of Malwa. I deleted the stub, as it had less info than the main Panjabi article, and put a dab in Panjabi. kwami (talk) 11:12, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There still seems to be some confusion. I'm editing Punjabi language, which says "In India, the key dialects of Punjabi are: Majhi, Doabi, Malwai, and Powadhi". However, we have no article for Malwai (or Malwai dialect). We do have Malwi dialect, which seems to correctly describe the same thing: "a dialect of Punjabi language spoken in the Malwa region of Punjab ... others being Doabi and Majhi". Also, that article uses the spelling Malwai internally in two places, but Malwi in the lede and a map.

Malwi dialect has a hatnote that it is "Not to be confused with Malvi language". The Malvi language article starts "Malvi (Malavi, Mallow, Malwada, Malwi) is the Rajasthani language of the Malva region of India, with ten million speakers". Note the supposed alternate spelling Malwi. Its language family tree is Indo-Aryan/Western/Rajasthani–Marwari/Rajasthani/Malvi, different than Punjabi dialects, which would start with Indo-Aryan/Central/Punjabi. Malva region redirects to Malwa, which includes "... districts of western Madhya Pradesh and parts of south-eastern Rajasthan..."

A google books search for [ "malwai" "dialect" "punjabi" -wikipedia -forum -twitter -tumblr -facebook -"malwi" ] finds ~153 results.

A google books search for [ "malwi" "dialect" "punjabi" -wikipedia -forum -twitter -tumblr -facebook -"malwai" ] finds ~93 results.

Conclusion 1: It seems there is a Malwa area of Punjab and Haryana, where the Malwai (aka Malwi) dialect of Punjabi is spoken.

Conclusion 2: There is also a Malwa area of Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh, where the Malvi (aka Malwi) language is spoken (by ~10 million people).

Questions:

Are the above conclusions correct?
Is the alternate spelling "Malwi" correct for both the Malwai dialect and Malvi language?
I'd like to move Malwi dialect to Malwai dialect to reflect the more prominent (and common-sense) name (with redirect and mention in article of alternate spelling). It also seems slightly more distinguishable from Malvi language and, of course, Malwi language (if valid).

—[AlanM1(talk)]— 12:19, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]