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The name[edit]

It's the same city in : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madgaon

(above comment left by user Dawi on 14 March 06)

That page now redirects to Margão. Regards, Rodney Boyd 18:16, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I wanted to add to my previous contribution. I wanted to do some research on it first, but never got the time. I doubt that the Portuguese name Margão, with the tilde symbol is much used now; it will be Margao (or perhaps one of the other forms e.g. Madgaon, Margaon in government websites.) So should the Portuguese name continue to be the name used here? Imc 18:34, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion i would say it should have the accent mark for accuracy Prominenthistorian (talk) 12:56, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Peacock language[edit]

Wiki guidelines on peacock language start: "In Wikipedia articles, try to avoid peacock terms which merely promote the subject of the article without imparting real information. Examples include describing people as "important" or "among the greatest" in their field without explaining why."

This article has many such examples. It would be less of a problem, except even information which seems as though it might be precisely stated (and given citations) is glossed. Examples:

"commercial capital of the state" "oldest recorded towns" "famous for huge Portugeuse style mansions" "fastest growing cities" "biggest and most important" "all trains passing stop here" "Gateway to south Goa" "prestigious schools" "famous sons and students" "excel in both academics and in sports"

Wikipedia is an encyclopdia, but not a travel book or an advertising forum. These problems really need to be fixed, and since it sounds like the editors have a good grasp of the area, it seems like it shouldn't be difficult!

24.130.18.213 (talk) 07:33, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello fellow Wikipedians, this is what I added or edited event leading to Democracy in Goa and events leading to Goa opinion poll

Political situation Since Goa was an acquired territory, India faced opposition from America in the UN, Goa was not given immediate statehood but was incorporated as a Union Territory unlike other Union Territories, which were directly administered by the central government in New Delhi. As Goans did not have its own state legislature, fearing for the identity of Goa Shri.Roqui Santan an influential member of the native Velliapura royal family but was a reluctant royal organised 3 days satygraha for early democracy in Goa, immediately Goa's first polls were held on 9 December 1963 even though Goa did not belong to India and for this Shri RoquiSantan is popularly know as 'Father of Goan Democracy' . It was only after the Luso-Indo treaty that Goa became a part of India. That too the treaty was not in consultations with the Goans, the indigenous people.

After the announcement of the first election the two main parties were formed by two Goan industrialists from no where, UGP and MGP, with two opposing ideologies. The Maharashtrawadi Gomantak Party (Pro-Maharashtra Goan Party) wanted to merge the state of Goa into the newly formed state of Maharashtra. Roqui Santan campaigned against Goa's merger with Maharashtra and was the front leader. The United Goans Party wanted to retain independent statehood for the former Portuguese enclaves The MGP had the support of the lower castes among Goa's Hindus, whereas the UGP was dominated by Catholics with some support from upper-caste Hindus. Decan.reporter (talk) 15:37, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello fellow Wikipedians, when you hit/click the reference please scroll down to this title:- ‘Roque Santana anniversary observed ‘ [1]. Herald, PANJIM, 11th Jun 2013: The 51st anniversary of the ‘Father of Goan Democracy’ late Roque Santana Fernandes who went on an indefinite hunger strike in Margao in 1962 which resulted in elections being declared for the first time in Goa in December 1963 was observed in Velim, Monday.

The late Roque Santana resorted to a fast unto death demanding that elected members and not appointed ones should represent Goa in Parliament, with the result that Gopal Handoo, adviser to then Lt Governor of Goa met him at the instance of then prime minister Jawaharlal Nehru. He gave up the strike, met Nehru and it was agreed to hold elections for the first time in Goa in 1963. It is for the democratic fight that he was hailed as the `Father of Goan Democracy.’

Late Roque Santana was subsequently elected to Goa Assembly twice in 1967 and 1971 and was awarded Tambra Patra for his contribution for Goa’s freedom. Decan.reporter (talk) 15:37, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello fellow Wikipedians, This is the press release by Kadamba Coterie after their sentiments were hurt in Velliapura in 2013. Velim, 11 kilometers from Margao, South Goa. Dec. 21st 2013. [2] Mr.Venkatesha A. Upadhiaya today submitted a memorandum to the President of India Mr.Pranab Mukherjee, Prime Minister Mr.Manmohan Singh and Mr. Pravin Srivastava of Archeological Survey of India ASI, demanded to immediately acquire and save the 12th century, Kadamba Jayakeshi Southern Capital Velimpura site which is also the cremation ground of the last Ruler of Hangal located in present day Velim, South Goa a place of National Interest? from the possession of Mrs Ana Emerita, widow of a great Goan, late Roqiue Santana charging her for constructing on the scared grounds, denying access by locking the compound gates and playing regional card with the pilgrims from the neighboring villages of Karnataka who visit Velim once a year, a centuries old practice and as part of the Banavasi festival celebrations to pay their respect to the 1368AD Velimpura cremation ground of Purandarai-Deva the ruler of Hangal.


Warning the locals who were present here today not to be silent spectators to injustice done to the glorious historical past Mr. Upadhiaya a native of Belgaum lamented while reacting to regionalism that prior to his death in 2007 Roqiue Santana like his father in Portuguese colonial times always gave a warm welcome and supply of drinking water as a gesture of respect to the Kannada visitors at the site. Roqiue Santana popularly known as Father of Goa’s Democracy was the local elected representative to liberated Goa legislative Assembly. No doubt this family is Goan, like thousands of Goans they are of Deccan origin too?. Mr. Upadhiaya said.


Earlier, a man who walked up behind the secured gates calling himself the security for the Roqiue Santana family charged last years pilgrims of criminal mischief, theft and robbery as important antiques went missing following last Dec. pilgrims visit and said that the family has moved out of this country and ordered the driver of the tour bus to get going. Leading the pilgrims Mr. Upadhiaya? 82, denied? the allegation here today in Velim saying? that we are always protective of the family and do respect their privacy and recollected his family?s ancestors ties as Sarva-Karyakartas meaning chief secretary, a hereditary appointment up to the time when Governor of Madras presidency George Harris under Lord Dalhousie administration confiscated the Haliyal Timber and Construction Lime Co. goods of Roqiue Santan’s greatgrand father in Nov of 1855. Mr. Upadhiaya held that most of the pilgrims are the descendants of the? family?s Haliyal compound work force. Historians hold that Haliyal yard was basically? Goa? ruling Reigns Armoury and is today converted into Haliyal Bus Terminal. In his memorandum he urged Archeological? Survey Of India (ASI) to atleast save this Velim landmark for future generations.


According to this famous historical source held sacred by Hangal Coterie, Purandarai ruler of Hangal and family on the eve of his fall in 1347 secretly traveled over night to joined his daughter who herself took shelter in safer Jayakeshi Velimpura compound in 1345 when her husband was assassinated by Mohammedans at present day Chandor. A second wall stone Kannada inscription dated 1396 in the Velim compound marks the death and cremation of? Veenomai-Devi beauty and wife of? Suriya-Deva, slain Sovereign at Chandrapur palace, daughter of Late Purandaraideva, Kadambarasa of Hangal confirms this history. It can be infered from the Velim inscription that Goa Kadamba Suriya-Deva son of Beera, was married to the nearby royal bride who was his distance cousin. Mr. Upadhiaya said. Before adopting Portuguese Catholicism

Mr. Upadhiaya said. Before adopting Portuguese Catholicism this Velimpura family’s ancestors had given up worship in their temples for fear of Mohammedan trap, reinvented themselves as Haliyal timber lords where converted by Orthodox Nasranis of Malabar in early1400s.Some of the Syrian origin worship items and anointing oil alabastrons saved by Upadhiaya's great grand father and moved to Belgaum after the 1855 British confiscation of Haliyal compound is convincing evidence. Further, quoting Kannada stone inscriptions on Konkan sea pirate Timu 'enemy turned friend' recovered from present day Haliyal Bus stand tell that Timu in those crucial years provided protection for their ancestors in return for timber for his shipbuilding needs had exploited this converts fear issue and used Portuguese forces to drive Mohammedans away and enforced his Timu administration in Goa in 1510. The Portuguese? in a while overpowered Timu and colonized Goa. It is a well known historical conclusion that this Christian connection attracted early Jesuits including Francis Xavier to visit Velliapura first for refreshment before traveling inland for conversions, he added.

Prof. Nilkanth Sah Paddaam in this press release said here today that a six member delegation headed by Mr. Upadhiaya is leaving for New Delhi tomorrow to follow up with his memorandum. Dec/2013 Deccan Herald, Press Release/Nilkanth Sah Paddaam, Belgaum. Decan.reporter (talk) 15:37, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "RoquSantana 'Father of Goan Democracy". Retrieved 10 Jan 2018.
  2. ^ "Press release by Kadamba coterie". Retrieved 10 Jan 2018.

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