Talk:Margaret Haig Thomas, 2nd Viscountess Rhondda

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Copyright problem[edit]

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On the outbreak of the First World War, Margaret accepted the decision by the WSPU leadership to abandon its militant campaign for the vote. For the next of couple of years she worked closely with her father, who was sent by David Lloyd George to the United States to arrange the supply of munitions for the British armed forces. In May 1915, Margaret was returning from the United States on the Lusitania when it was torpedoed by a German submarine. Although over a thousand passengers died, Margaret was one of those fortunate enough to be rescued.

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On the outbreak of the First World War later that year, she accepted the decision by the WSPU to abandon its militant campaign for the vote and for the next of couple of years she worked closely with her father, who was sent by the then Minister of Munitions, David Lloyd George, to the United States to arrange the supply of munitions for the British armed forces. On their return home in May, 1915, Lady Mackworth and her father were aboard the RMS Lusitania when it was torpedoed by a German U-Boat. Although over a thousand passengers died, Lady Mackworth and her father were fortunate enough to be rescued.

The article said:

Her report on the Women's Royal Airforce in 1918 led to the dismissal of its commander, Violet Douglas-Pennant and her replacement by Helen Gwynne-Vaughan.

The source said:

Her report on the Women's Royal Airforce in 1918 led to the dismissal of its commander, Violet Douglas-Pennant and her replacement by Helen Gwynne-Vaughan.

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Maiden vs. married name[edit]

the infobox lists mackworth as her birth name. the text says she married a mackworth in 1908. are they both correct; i.e. did she marry a cousin? clarification is called for.Toyokuni3 (talk) 22:41, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Peeress[edit]

>Less than a month after Lady Rhondda's death in 1958, women entered the Lords for the first time thanks to the Life Peerages Act 1958; five years later, with the passage of the Peerage Act 1963, hereditary peeresses were also allowed to enter the Lords.

What is the difference between "women" entering the House of Lords for the first time in 1958, and "hereditary peeressess" entering in 1963? Thank you. Rissa, copy editor (talk) 06:51, 15 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The difference is that from 1958 women with life peerages could sit in the Lords but those who had inherited hereditary peerages did not inherit the right to sit until the 1963 Act. So Lady Rhondda would not have been automatically eligible to sit in the Lords if she'd lived a few months longer. (Women with hereditary peerages could, however, be granted a life peerage as well. Irene Curzon, 2nd Baroness Ravensdale seems to have been the only such case.) Timrollpickering 11:44, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Perhaps also ironic that, given a life peerage, the 2nd Baroness Ravensdale would have sat in the House of Lords and would have been addressed by her more senior hereditary title. This is a convention also for those with Irish peerages who are able to sit in the House of Lords courtesy of either a life peerage or a hereditary peerage from the other peerage systems within the island of Great Britain.Ds1994 (talk) 21:46, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in Margaret Mackworth, 2nd Viscountess Rhondda[edit]

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Margaret Mackworth, 2nd Viscountess Rhondda's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "ReferenceA":

From David Lloyd George: Taylor 1988
From Somerville College, Oxford: http://blogs.some.ox.ac.uk/jcr/accomodation/
From D. A. Thomas: South Wales Daily News, 4 July 1918

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 03:58, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]