Talk:Margaret Wise Brown

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Changes to article[edit]

Please remember to include an edit summary when you change the text of the article. Both 99.254.1.217 and 209.197.159.225 made a number of changes, each apparently minor, but they add up to substantial changes. Quine (talk)

William Scott work[edit]

One recent change was from her being editor of the press to being "an editor" of the press. As I recall she was chief editor until she left following a pay dispute and Scott (the person) wanting to change the press to a more commercially driven enterprise. (This is as opposed to a press that embodied the Lucy Sprague Mitchell's Bank Street approach.) Quine (talk)

Alternate Names[edit]

One of the changes includes that Brown was known as "Brownie" to her friends. As I recall she went by different names depending upon the circle of friends. Her Hollins' friends refered to her as "Tim" because the color of her hair reminded them of Timothy Hay. (Leading to one of the pseudonyms. Quine (talk)

Have I understood this and linked this correctly [footnote says Marcus, 23]
To her Dana School and Hollins friends she was "Tim", as her hair was the color of timothy hay.[9]
Unfortunately or article does not show the color of hay --only fresh leaves and stems, inflorescence (at two stages iiuc), and seeds. --P64 (talk) 20:28, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bibliography[edit]

Any interest in including a bibliography of her books? A complete one will probably have to be split off as a separate page as she was quite prolific. Quine (talk)

It would be informative to identify one work, or one kind of work (editor? author? magazine article? book? genre?) that she undertook under each of the listed pseudonyms.
--P64 (talk) 20:28, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ovarian cyst?[edit]

It was appendicitis not an ovarian cyst that was the surgery. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.47.15.38 (talk) 17:36, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I just double checked Marcus' biography. The exploratory surgery "revealed an ovarian cyst... As a precaution, her appendix was also removed." (276) Quine (talk) 18:06, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Since Quine's investigation from 2012 indicates that the primary reason for the surgery was the ovarian cyst that was causing Ms. Brown pain, and that the removal of her appendix was only a precaution, then it's incorrect to say that she had surgery for "appendicitis." I believe I'm justified in making an edit to this effect.Rontrigger (talk) 05:18, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pseudonyms[edit]

See also above #Alternative names; #Bibliography

Our {{infobox writer}} gives four pseudonyms of which I added the first three to {{persondata}} alternate names. The fourth is Kaintuck Brown. What's that?

The Library of Congress Name Authority File for Timothy Hay[1] under heading "Sources" identifies three pseudonyms: Golden MacDonald (6 works catalog records), Timothy Hay (1 work), Juniper Sage (joint pseud.). If I understand correctly, LC's source is Contemporary Authors vol. 136 --which I don't know.

I do not find Kaintuck Brown as author/creator of any works in LC Catalog, which suggests but doesn't show that no books by KB were published.

--P64 (talk) 20:28, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Marcus' biography does not have the Kaintuck name at all. Nor is any work authored by that name in WorldCat. I'm thinking it is a spurious name. In the absence of proof of its use, I recommend a deletion. 8.38.167.245 (talk) 18:06, 5 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

For MacDonald that is 5 works (6 records). All five are now listed with my hasty annotation in the middle of the list. --P64 (talk) 01:12, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
LC Authorities reports 1 title as Hay, 6 as MacDonald, citing Contemporary Authors vol 136 (1992) [2]. LC Online Catalog (select "Browse" at LC authorities) has records for 1, 5, and 1 books under the names Hay, MacDonald, and Sage (joint pseudonym). Section External links now directly targets all four identities at LC Authorities (where one may "Browse" the catalog each).
WorldCat Hay, MacDonald, Sage shows 1, 6, and 1 distinct titles under those names of which the Hay, one of the MacDonald, and the Sage are held by few participating libraries.
--P64 (talk) 19:52, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Kaintuck Brown[edit]

Per the above, moving to delete Kaintuck Brown as a pseudonym. The name does not appear in Marcus' biography, in WorldCat, or in LC. The only reference outside of wikipedia I've found is in a "fun facts about authors" book. Seems fair to hold that the book's information is coming from the bad information here. Quine (talk) 17:38, 20 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Works[edit]

The Duck, 1935?

LC catalog gives 1935 copyright date for The Duck with photos by Ylla.[3] Is that a catalog error? We say 1952 and give 1937 for her first book.

--P64 (talk) 01:12, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

According to Marcus, The Duck came out posthumously in spring 1953. (Marcus 282) I think the LC entry is a catalogue error. Looks like an inversion of the date. 8.38.167.245 (talk) 18:09, 5 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Noisy Book series

We provide no bibliog data but this listing. I will add a few notes while LC catalog is convenient.

  • The (City) Noisy Book --The Noisy Book, 1939, illus. Leonard Weisgard
  • The Country Noisy Book --1940, ill. Weisgard
  • The Indoor Noisy Book --1942, ill. Weisgard
  • The Quiet Noisy Book --1950, ill. Weisgard
  • The Seashore Noisy Book --1941, ill. Weisgard
  • The Summer Noisy Book --1951, ill. Weisgard
  • The Winter Noisy Book --1947, ill. Charles G. Shaw
  • About Margaret Wise Brown --probably not in this series ;-)

LC also lists

  • The Noisy Bird Book (W. R. Scott, 1943), ill. Weisgard[4]
  • Bunny's Noisy Book (Hyperion, 2000), ill. Lisa McCue[5]
Here and Now stories

That's all we say.

--P64 (talk) 01:12, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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