Talk:Marianas Practical Shooting Association

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Contested deletion[edit]

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because it is notable and can be worked on. Sauer202 (talk) 16:33, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AusLondonder: Hello, Why are you systemaitcally removing articles about notable sports governing bodies which have been standing for about 10 years? Yes, they can be expanded and more sources added, then please do tag them as such. But to claim that they are unsourced and not notable is not true. Do you have an anti-sport agenda or something? Sauer202 (talk) 06:57, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Sauer202: that's a weird question and insinuation. I don't think I've ever heard of an "anti-sport agenda". This article has absolutely no secondary sources to demonstrate notability. WP:ORGCRIT requires articles about organisations to have "significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject" - this article has zero and should be deleted unless some are located and added. AusLondonder (talk) 07:28, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It very clearly seems like you are pushing an agenda when you nominate certain types of sport shooting for deletion, like Guam Shooting Sports Federation but not Guam National Shooting Sports Federation, when the "sourcing" that you cite is clearly at the same level. A speedy deletion as you have done to this and similar articles is unsuitable for articles about national organizations which have stood for 10 years on Wikipedia. Do you expect sources to be added in seconds, or else? Editors must be given time to respond to these threats. Sauer202 (talk) 08:07, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There's no need to make unfounded accusations. If you come across other articles that you feel do not meet notability requirements please nominate them for deletion. With regards to this specific page, the fact it has lacked sources (and indeed content) for 10 years actually increases my concern. If you believe this organisation is notable, please add sources. AusLondonder (talk) 10:10, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have done lots of hard work to make these articles. They have stood the test of time for 10 years. Then you come and promote them for speedy deletion, and they are gone in seconds. It would be better to mark them as undersourced and give a timely deadline for when they must be improved, e.g. a week. It is unreasonable to require editors to make such improvements within this short amount of time. I think you are misunderstanding Wikipedia's guidelines. The requirements you refer to for notability are sufficient, but not necessary for an article to be notable. Your selective choice of articles that you promote for deletion makes it appear that you are on a crusade against the IPSC. Sauer202 (talk) 11:54, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]