Talk:Marie Meyer (aviator)

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A fact from Marie Meyer (aviator) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 8 May 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Marie Meyer's aerobatic stunts included standing on the upper wing of a biplane while it looped-the-loop (pictured)?

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Did you know nomination[edit]

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The result was: promoted by Lightburst (talk) 02:27, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Marie Meyer looping the loop, 1925

... that barnstorming pilot and wingwalker Marie Meyer's stunts with the Marie Meyer Flying Circus included standing on the upper wing of a biplane while it looped-the-loop (pictured)? Source: https://books.google.com/books?id=KWLbbcCQ0T8C&pg=PA241
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bertha McNeill
- Comment: Suitable for Women's History Month.

Created by Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk). Self-nominated at 15:35, 17 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Marie Meyer (aviator); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Interesting article, moved from userspace under a week ago, well cited throughout. I have to AGF on the source for the hook as I can't read it at the Google Books link provided. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 11:17, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
At one point the full book was viewable online, but now the version linked only shows some excerpted pages. MaryMO (AR) (talk) 23:56, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The source for the hook is actually page 242. Lightburst (talk) 02:25, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Edited photos[edit]

It is clear that the three photos showing Marie Meyer variously on the lower wing, on the top wing and doing the loop, are all based on the same photo of the airplane, with Marie Meyer being edited in (in at least two of the photos). This is evidenced by the outline of the plane, including the relative positions of all parts, being exactly the same in all three instances. In other words, the distance and angle of the plane relative to the camera is identical, which would not be the case if the photographs had been taken at different moments. This should be clarified in the description of the photographs. If it is maintained that the photographs is take at different instances, and maybe even at different events, the source of that information should be stated. This does not mean that she did not do the depicted stunts, only that at the time it was difficult to take good aerial photographs, and that it was much easier to illustrate the stunts by creating the images in the dark room. SorenTerp16 (talk) 15:48, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]