Talk:Marshall Fredericks

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Removal of images of sculptures[edit]

Removal of images. Well, the pictorial part of this article has been completely gutted. I am appalled that Wiki can't come up with a comprehensive statement that deals decisively with the fair use issue involved in photographs of sculptures, when you have the photographer's permission and he took the photo. What would seem to remain is the question of copyright over the sculptures. This is a legal issue, which needs to be answered by a legal opinion. It will not be clarified by incessant nattering at contributors demanding that they give a fair use rationale. This is no way to run an encyclopedia, in my opinion. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 16:04, 18 January 2008 (UTC)Stan[reply]

Big doings at the Marshall Fredericks Museum at Saginaw Valley State University[edit]

I think that the article should have some detail on all the new developments at the University. They have revamped the interior exhibits, and they will be open within the next two weeks. There is a large reconstruction of Marshall Fredericks' studio. All of this deserves some mention. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 17:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC) Stan[reply]

As one of the folks with a decent collection of pictures of MF's work, (see note above) if you (or anyone) gets up to SVSU for these goings on perhaps you can ask them about their feelings regarding the copyright issues and the posting of pictures on wikipedia. I suppose that I could send them an email, but face-to-face is so much better. Thanks for alerting us about the event, I'm still 1,749 miles away, so won't be there. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 18:30, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They obviously know what copyrights are. As you know, there is a sculpture garden. There is also several galleries. Photos are permitted in the garden, but not in the galleries. I met the director (she is very pleasant), and I hope to chat with her again. I would really like to know what to ask her. While I do not venture that they are upset by pictures taken in public areas that do not commercially gain from them, I would expect that they don't want to do anything that would compromise their legal protections for these works. So they may be willing to acquiesce, but they may not want to consent. If I could be given guidance as to what to ask, and what the Wiki-powers might consider to be sufficient, I would be willing to follow up on this. But I need guidance and a target. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 01:20, 11 June 2008 (UTC) Stan[reply]

Here is my opinion. You ask if you can use low resolution pictures of his work on wikipedia. You explain that by allowing this they are giving up copyrights ONLY to that one particular image, NOT to all images of that work or others of other works. The image posted here must be free to be used in other places, not just wikipedia. They had a book of mine showing the Fredericks works for the Administration Building at UM on loan for about a decade or so and I just got it back. Fredericks two main works on the building, Dreams of a Young Girl and Dreams of a Young Man were recently moved from there, on Central Campus, to a very obscure, hard to locate spot on North Campus. I'd be interesting in the Director's take on that switch. Einar Carptrash (talk) 05:59, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll ask. I've got to go back to SVSU in July, and I'll do it then. I'm not sure who is the copyright holder, and would have the right to waive it. I'll let you know what I find out. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 10:14, 11 June 2008 (UTC) Stan[reply]

I'm wondering about[edit]

this new section on the museum. Sounds more like (1) a museum promo piece and/or (2) a separate article. Any other ideas? Opinions? Carptrash (talk) 19:50, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Citation from Michigan History[edit]

The following is a useful citation, for anyone interested in working on the article:

Manning, Nancy Sajdak (March/April 2012). "Marshall Fredericks: A Monumental Talent". Michigan History. 96 (2): 15–21. {{cite journal}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

Cheers, Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 17:16, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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