Talk:Martin Stephens (drug smuggler)

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On 14 January 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Martin Stephens to Martin Stephens (convict). The result of the discussion was moved.

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Requested move 14 January 2022[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. with the alternative disambiguation of "drug smuggler" used instead of "convict" (closed by non-admin page mover) Elli (talk | contribs) 00:50, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

– The case of the drug smuggler was in vogue at the time that the article was written, but I don't see a case for a longstanding primary topic as against both the actor and the judge. BD2412 T 18:15, 14 January 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Steel1943 (talk) 17:43, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support Page views are showing the actor with more views and no clear primary topic.--Yaksar (let's chat) 23:08, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nomination and Yaksar. The convict's notability certainly does not exceed the combined renown of the actor and the judge. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 01:25, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Martin Stephens (drug smuggler). There appears to be no suggestion that he was wrongly convicted. We use "murderer" for convicted murderers and "fraudster" for convicted fraudsters, so why not what he actually did. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:27, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I have no strong preference with regard to this aspect, so long as the page is moved. BD2412 T 16:26, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting the discussion to discuss the alternative disambiguator for the article.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 17:43, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support. The actor certainly gets more pageviews than the smuggler. There doesn't seem to be any one preferred qualifier at Category:Australian drug traffickers, where "criminal", "smuggler" and "drug trafficker" are all used, so no preference as to any of those or the others mentioned above. Station1 (talk) 06:16, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support the actor has more views (1,248) than the convict (1,219)[[1]]. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:57, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support for balance of notability. (Not sure that page view difference of only 0.25% is significant.) Also lead in the disambiguation page needs to go, and be replaced by a list item. Aoziwe (talk) 10:11, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support Use of (drug smuggler), more specific and informative. ASUKITE 17:10, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The real truth. of Martin Stephenson. In how he got involved.[edit]

this was Martin's first trip to Bali when he agreed to the holiday he did not ask a lot of questions he's too eager to please his new workmates Renee Lawrence Andrew Chan an Norman Matthew. Which he met in 2005 on January the 7th everyone knew about Renee Matthew and Andrews yearly trips to Bali at the stadium Australia. I just guessed I didn't know what they brought back with them. And Martin did not ask the right questions until 3 weeks before leaving astray for Bali found out the real truth why they were going to Bali and it wasn't to what he agreed to . So we tried to back out and that's when Andrew and I threatened him and his family. In the drugs seem to get name. any questions Royal true blue (talk) 12:32, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]