Talk:Mary Speke

A fact from Mary Speke appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 31 May 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Bishop of Bath and Wells said that "there is not a more dangerous woman in the West" than Mary Speke?

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The result was: promoted by Z1720 (talk) 01:43, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the Bishop of Bath and Wells said that ""there is not a more dangerous woman in the West" than Mary Speke? Source: Book extract for "A Dangerous Woman: Mary Speke, her Family, and the Puritan Gentry"

Reviewed: Theresa M. Korn
Comment: feel free to add an alt or improve the article or hook

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self-nominated at 08:50, 6 May 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Article is long enough and new enough; no sourcing or copyright issues were found. Hook has good source and meets length and format criterion. QPQ was done.--Orygun (talk) 06:48, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Victuallers, I was going to promote this hook, but in the article I was confused over why and when she was arrested. Unfortunately, I cannot access the source that verifies this information and the other sources do not mention her arrest. Can you access the source and expand upon why she was arrested? I tagged the spot in the article where the confusion happened. Please ping me here when the info is verified and I will re-review this. Thanks! Z1720 (talk) 02:12, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pleased that you are curious but I don't see why this effects the promotion. The article is correct but not complete - and may never be. If it was complete then it would be a GA. The relevant quote is "She had an arrest record and had engaged, insofar as both authorities in London and royalists in Somerset were concerned, in a worrisome pattern of behavior. Her frequent trips to London and her wide circle of correspondents seem to be part of what made Mary Speke the object of their suspicions. She may have been a “nursing mother” to Whig radicals in the 1680s, and was perhaps no less active or dangerous than Elizabeth Gaunt. Only Mary Speke, unlike Gaunt, was born in a manor house and married to a one time". I can only speculate as to the charge sheet of her arrests. Feel free to make additions but can I suggest that you promote it first otherwise it may cause a worrying precedent. Victuallers (talk) 08:46, 23 May 2021 (UTC) I smoothed out the "Why" and can I highlight the "She was considered responsible for organising conventicles and encouraging dissent across the West Country" which occurs in the preceding sentence. Victuallers (talk) 08:52, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Victuallers I added a sentence to the article explaining why she was arrested several times. Please check to make sure it is phrased correctly and verified by the source. I have no further concerns with promoting this article. Thanks for your help in fixing this article. The prep areas are full right now, but I imagine this will be promoted soon as it's near the top of the list. Please let me know if you have any questions. Z1720 (talk) 14:17, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have no issue with it being promoted either @Z1720: although its difficult to discuss your additions if you consider them a condition of your approval (which I think is not part of the DYK approval process). So I'll waive comment on the words you have imposed. Victuallers (talk) 14:30, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]