Talk:Mathematics and fiber arts

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It seems like there are quite a few people doing mathematical quilts:

so the question is is it better to have a page on maths quilts in general, or a specific one about a particular book? --Salix alba (talk) 13:24, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Copied from WT:WPM; a useful list of links, not all now in the article.

Mathematical quilts is a clumsily written article. Maybe there's something to it and it can evolve. Someone's proposing to delete it (not yet on AfD, but with a "prod" template. Does anyone here know anything about this? Michael Hardy 04:49, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Whether the book reaches normal wikipedia notability standards is questionable. However there should be a place for this sort of thing in wikipedia, maybe with an broader article, whos name escapes me at the moment. There do seem to be others doing mathematical quilting as well [1]. --Salix alba (talk) 08:32, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was going to say that although there are quite a lot of people doing mathematical quilting, I wondered if the subject was sufficiently notable for inclusion. But then I thought it was likely that there had been at least one Mathematical Intelligencer article about it over the years, and shortly thereafter I remembered that quilting was the cover story in some journal I've read. So the topic is almost certainly verifiable, and meets the notability requirements. -- Dominus 12:32, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The cover was not on a math journal. It was the May 2005 issue of the journal The Physics Teacher. Complete article. -- Dominus 15:54, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Two Penrose tile quilts: [2] [3]. Not exactly published in reliable third-party print publications, but at least they show that there's more than the book to this. —David Eppstein 15:15, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AMS Special Session in Mathematics and Mathematics Education in Fiber Arts (at the January 2005 Joint Mathematics Meetings in Atlanta, GA) Reference List: Mathematical Articles on Fiber Arts -- Dominus 15:33, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

See also Irena Swanson's page for some spectacular examples of mathematical quilts. Arcfrk 18:01, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And this sublink of the AMS page above. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 19:11, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Notability definitly seems to be there, quite a few of Ellison works are in the London Science Museum [4]. IEEE Spectrum have run at least 5 block design contests.[5]

The main question seems to be do we want a page on a book by one author, or a general mathematical quilts page. Or maybe a Mathematics and Fiber Arts page which could include quilting and kitted mobius bands and hyperbolic planes[6] etc.? I'd probably go for the latter. --Salix alba (talk) 20:11, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

An article on the general idea seems about right to me. Paul August ☎ 20:15, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've now moved it to Mathematics and fiber arts and reworked it somewhat. --Salix alba (talk) 22:16, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If I recall correctly, there was an article (in one of those MAA periodicals or something) about someone who knits various shapes related to topology. I don't remember much of it. That might fit the article - I'll see if I can recall where/when I saw the thing. --Cheeser1 23:40, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have a Klein bottle ski cap that a fellow grad student knitted for me. (She may have gotten the idea from such an article). VectorPosse 00:46, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you could get a picture of this that would be wonderful. Currently the article has no illustrations and I guess most of the pictures on the interweb are not under open licences. --Salix alba (talk) 08:18, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am willing to release the photographs and illustrations here under a suitable license if you think it will be helpful. There is a more detailed explanation here. Also, my wife made a quilt that tabulates the values of the GCD function and we can put these on commons if you want to include them. Somewhere I have pictures of a quilt that incorporates the decimal digits of e, but the design itself is not mathematical. -- Dominus 14:07, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

May I suggest to move the discussion to the talk page of Mathematical quilts? Jakob.scholbach 17:47, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]