Talk:Mauser Model 1893

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For those interested...[edit]

The Machinery article cited includes very in-depth coverage of the process by which these rifles were manufactured. A lot of detail beyond the scope of an encyclopedia article, but interesting nonetheless. Parsecboy (talk) 16:50, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Mauser Model 1893/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Zawed (talk · contribs) 03:07, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I will take this one, comments to follow in next few days. Zawed (talk) 03:07, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

The last sentence of the 1st para - mentions flush with bottom of stock/rifle twice.
- Fixed

Development

A few terms could be linked, e.g. box magazine, stock (firearms), extractor (firearms), bolt (firearms)
- Done

Description

"As was standard for Mauser rifles, a three-position safety...": suggest "As was standard for Mauser rifles, the M1893 was configured with a three-position safety..." or something similar
- Good idea
"...did not include a third, rear locking lug, which was introduced with the Model 1895." The notes that end this sentence are out of order
- Fixed

Derivatives

"M1894 rifles were also sold to Brazil, chambered in 7&n mm,...": please check the dimensions for the round
- Fixed, good catch

Ottoman variant

"Most all of these rifles still..": Needs to be rephrased depending on whether all rifles or most of them were rebarrelled
- Fixed.

References

Hamilton is not in alphabetical order
- No, the one before is "de" and the one after is "Peterson"
Westwood doesn't seem to be cited at all
- He is - FN 26
  - Whoops, how did I miss that...Zawed (talk) 07:42, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Other stuff

Image tags seem appropriate
No dupe links
No dab links
External links check out OK

Will check back in a few days. Cheers, Zawed (talk) 08:44, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Zawed. Parsecboy (talk) 14:49, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good, passing as GA. Zawed (talk) 07:42, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mauser 93 pic from IMFDB and other sources[edit]

For now, the picture of the Spanish Mauser in the article is a black and white one (Spanish_Mauser_1893.png). There are colored variants of the weapon, and Wikipedia should replace the black and white to a colored one. For that pic here: http://www.imfdb.org/images/8/81/Spanish1893Mauser.jpg You can get rid of the watermark, but when used, send link to source to avoid copyright issues. Same with these: https://images.guns.com/wordpress/2017/03/DSCN0664.jpg http://www.antiquearmsinc.com/images/1893-spanish-mauser/1893-spanish-mauser-1.jpg https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/2025/217/spanish-contract-mauser-model-1893-bolt-action-rifle

None of those are acceptable to use. If you have a photo you took yourself, feel free to upload it. But we can't take anyone else's copyrighted work. Parsecboy (talk) 11:42, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Image from NRA Museum[edit]

Found the image of the Mauser Model 1893, sourced here: https://www.nramuseum.org/guns/the-galleries/theodore-roosevelt-and-elegant-arms-1880s-to-1920s/case-31-a-splendid-little-war/mauser-spanish-m1893-rifle.aspx. Managed to upload it, but someone says I'm vandalizing it, which is not my intention at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RingwraithofMordor (talk • contribs) 09:19, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What evidence do you have that the photo is actually a CC license? I can't see anywhere on the NRA page that it is. And in fact, I do see a copyright notice at the bottom. We can't use copyrighted images unless the owner releases the image under a CC license. Parsecboy (talk) 11:03, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Looked around a bit and found this, which makes it pretty clear that we can't use it. Parsecboy (talk) 21:56, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Copy, Using the NMAH variant instead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RingwraithofMordor (talk • contribs) 19:19, 24 November 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.146.4.19 (talk) [reply]

We can't use that either, unfortunately - if you go to the source, you'll see that "Usage conditions apply", and if you look at the terms of use, that means that "All other Content is subject to usage conditions due to copyright and/or other restrictions and may only be used for personal, educational, and other non-commercial uses consistent with the principles of fair use under Section 108 of the U.S. Copyright Act. All rights not expressly granted herein by the Smithsonian are reserved..." The non-commercial restriction is not compliant with any of the creative commons licenses we use here. Parsecboy (talk) 13:56, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Any alternatives? If there's a free for use pic of that weapon, we can use it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RingwraithofMordor (talk • contribs) 10:19, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not that I'm aware of, unfortunately - that's why I used the illustration ;) Enough of these are floating around that someone who has one will hopefully turn up eventually. I have one, myself, but it's pretty thrashed and it wouldn't make a good representation of the rifle. Parsecboy (talk) 15:10, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]