Talk:McCandlish

Works already checked[edit]

I checked this:

Sims, Clifford Stanley (1862). The Origin and Signification of Scottish Surnames. Albany, New York: J. Munsell – via Google Books.

There is no entry for [Mac]Candlish, or related. There are later editions up to 2013, but I have seen no evidence that they are revisions, rather than just reprints of the Victorian original. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 02:18, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also:

Zaczek, Iain (2001). The Book of Scottish Names. New York: Barnes & Noble.
Zaczek, Iain (2001). The Book of Irish Names. New York: Barnes & Noble.

Both are just given-name (first-name) books ("baby naming books"), and neither has an entry for Candlish, Candless, Cuindles, etc. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 02:26, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And:

Smith, Elsdon Coles (1988) [1973]. New Dictionary of American Family Names. New York: Gramercy / Crown. ISBN 9780060139339 – via Internet Archive. – Has an entry thus: "McCandless, McCandlis (Ir.) The son of Cuindleas." Also: "Quinlisk (Ir.) Descendant of Cuindleas." This is obviously derived from older works we've already cited, and adds nothing new, so kind of useless as a source. Anyway, those are the only two quasi-relevant entries in this tertiary source. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 04:11, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And:

Bell, Robert (2021) [1994]. The Book of Ulster Surnames (New ed.). Ulster Historical Foundation. ISBN 978-1909556867. – Despite running to over 300 pages, it does not mention McCandlish, McCandless, or related. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 00:09, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Possible sources[edit]

Internet Archive has a lot of books in their e-library, that can be virtually "checked out" for a hour, about the Scots-Irish [1]. Some of these may having information on McCandless (more likely than the McCandlish spelling). — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 02:30, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Griffith's Valuation of 1868 is now searchable free online via AskAboutIreland.ie, and produces a lot of hits for the [Mc]Candless and [Mc]Andless spellings [2], one for McCandlish [3], and probably other for other Cuindles derivatives like Conlisk, etc. Not sure yet this will be any encyclopedic use, but it is there. Actually, for one thing, it confirms (as do other sources) that McCandless was historically confined to Ulster and not found in the rest of Ireland, as someone tried to suggest over at McCandless (surname) a few months ago. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 03:01, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sources I have not checked out yet:

Bell, Robert (1997) [1988]. The Book of Scots-Irish Family Names (New ed.). Blackstaff Press. ISBN 9780856406027. – This might just be an old edition of The Book of Ulster Surnames in the thread adove, or it might be more focused on a particular subset of Ulster names. Lots of book vendors seem to treat the two titles as synonymous, so I'm not going to spend money ordering both.

— SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 00:09, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]