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Railway subsidiary MEDWAY[edit]

I find various rumours on the www that MSC would have a subsidiary, named Medway or such, operating cargo trains in several European countries. Could someone more knowledgeable than myself mention this in this article, and perhaps even create a new article about this Medway rail transport company? Thanks in advance, Jan olieslagers (talk) 15:39, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For lack of response I have - very tentatively! - added a pointer myself. Correction/improvement very welcome. Jan olieslagers (talk) 19:02, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I intend to create a redirect page for Medway that can later be converted into a standalone article, but I'd like some input on what to call it; I'm thinking Medway (freight rail network), but one of my primary questions is whether the name should be stylized "Medway" or "MEDWAY". The company's website uses all-caps MEDWAY stylization, but a lot of companies capitalize their names on their own websites, so I'd rather rely on what secondary sources use. Unfortunately, I don't read or understand Portuguese, and English-language sources seem to be in short supply. Carguychris (talk) 23:19, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The title that you propose seems quite ok with me - the all-caps is only eye-candy by marketeers. Go ahead! NB If I can be of help with the Portuguese, feel free to ask. However I am a beginner in the language, and rely heavily on deepl.com :) Jan olieslagers (talk) 09:47, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect has been created leading to the "Overview" section of the main article. As with MSC Air Cargo, the intent is to create a placeholder for a future standalone article. Carguychris (talk) 21:30, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if it is of great use, but for what it is worth, here is a picture of a cargo train hauled by a Medway locomotive, on the Montzen-route between Belgium and Germany: https://www.flickr.com/photos/stevendehaeck/52937161120/ Picture would be from summer 2023. Jan olieslagers (talk) 18:26, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Remove GKT dispute in the History Section[edit]

Hello, On behalf of MSC (being an employee of MSC), I would like to propose removing the part about the dispute with Gary Keville Transport Limited, because:

It's partial and outdated, as it has not been updated to reflect that the Dublin High Court [record No. 2021 5055], refused on 8 March 2022 to continue the interim injunction. Sources: Final Judgment:https://www.courts.ie/view/Judgments/dd78d9cc-50e8-4c4f-b00f-59d317f90570/f7eb1af2-e7fb-4987-bd7e-ba191551f6da/2022_IEHC_544.pdf/pdf Article in the Irish Times: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/haulage-firm-refused-injunction-over-ban-on-collecting-containers-1.4824595
It is misplaced as it concerns a small legal dispute between the editor GKT and MSC, which displays in a disproportionate manner in the “history” section of the article.
It is inaccurate, as the so-called “embargo” could obviously only regard MSC containers, as opposed to other shipping lines’ containers.
This edit was a conflict of interest in the 1st place, as it was done by GKT themselves (revision done on 16/12/2021, 22:19, user GKT ).

Please take a moment to review this comment, maybe @Bri? Hope this is the right way to do this time, I am not familiar with how Wikipedia works. MSCGva (talk) 08:58, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am slightly surprised at the lack of response. Without knowing or understanding the root of the story, and insufficiently interested to spend the time and effort that this would require, I cannot help feeling that two parties are using Wikipedia as the arena for a quarrel of theirs; where MSC is mostly trying to minimalise or hush up the story. Smelly. The starter of this parapgraph should be added to the list of "editors working for a concerned party", I should reckon? Though I guess she/he is an employee, rather than an employer as stated. Jan olieslagers (talk) 13:48, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Jan olieslagers, thank you for your reply. Yes I am an employee of MSC, sorry for the spelling mistake, I fixed it.

I understand that you want to keep the part about GKT, but could you please change the text? Because the current one is outdated and therefore wrong, since the final judgment ended the injunction of lift.

The Irish Times article could be a good neutral point of view to quote: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/haulage-firm-refused-injunction-over-ban-on-collecting-containers-1.4824595 .{MSCGva (talk) 09:17, 28 August 2023 (UTC)}[reply]

No, I am not going to do the job for you, and be loaded with whatever blame follows suit. Again, this whole story is very smelly to me, and I will not touch it with a bargepole. Also, if you want the text changed, nothing keeps you from doing so yourself. Confirms my impression that MSC are trying to look as unconcerned and as guiltless as they can ever manage. Jan olieslagers (talk) 18:11, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

MSC Air Cargo[edit]

I've added an MSC Air Cargo section to this article, but I welcome comments regarding whether it should be split off as a standalone article. Carguychris (talk) 21:54, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looks fine just where it is (with the redirect you already made). Davidships (talk) 13:45, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Now that I've found sources indicating that MSC Air Cargo plans to obtain its own air operator's certificate through AlisCargo, I think it makes more sense to split it off after that happens. Carguychris (talk) 16:06, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

updated revenue and profit[edit]

I tried updating revenue and profit but am not that skilled, please fix Saad Mirza (talk) 19:29, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]