Talk:Meena Kumari (book)

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Did you know... that a book detailing the short life of Indian actress Meena Kumari was published just seven months after her death in 1972?

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GOCE copyedit request[edit]

Hello Nicholas Michael Halim. After completing my preliminary copyedit I always ask questions about the article to ensure that my edit reflects the intended meaning and is clear in doing so. Please reply to each point by indenting below each one like you would a conversation; items will be struck out once they have been answered. Please ping me with {{U}}, {{ping}}, or {{re}} as I have a lot of items on my watchlist. My copyediting process can be found here. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:27, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

After his first book Bombay: A Private View (1971), a memoir of his experience in Bombay, became a commercial success, Mehta—who was working as a copywriter—was motivated to write more books in the future. This seems more appropriate after the lead. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:27, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Removed from lead. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:25, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

~~The book subsequently starred in more commercially and critically successful [...] I think this is supposed to be Kumari the person, not the book?~~ —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:27, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done by requester. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:25, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[...] the film opened to average reception commercially but the box office collection [...] Emphasis added. What does this mean? Is it supposed to refer to the amount that was grossed (definition 2)? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:27, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Changed it to revenue. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:33, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

~~3,000 copies of the first edition were sold out after six days. Is this supposed to mean the first edition only had 3,000 copies circulating the market?~~ —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:27, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done by requester. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:28, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

~~Mehta noted in the book's foreword [...] Which book? Lucknow Boy?~~ —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:27, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done by requester. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:29, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

However, none of which the latter kept and Mehta described it as "a big void" of the book. What is this sentence supposed to mean? It's never made clear what the latter (whom I assume to be Dharmendra) didn't keep. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:27, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Worked on by requester. I saw the changes you made but the sentence still doesn't make sense: as it reads right now, it claims that Mehta met with Dharmendra several times, but that these meetings didn't actually happen. What exactly is none of which referring to? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:37, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Fixed sentence up. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:31, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[...] when Luis Vaz of Jaico Publishing House approached Mehta to offer him writing a biography on Kumari as soon as she died in March 1972. Already edited. What exactly did they offer Mehta? What is he writing the biography in exchange for? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:27, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not done. Leaving for the requester to find more information. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:31, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Looking forward to your responses, Nicholas Michael Halim. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:27, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done, but I can't find the reason Vaz offered Mehta to writing the book as far as I browse on it on the Internet. Much deeper research for this one will be done as soon as possible. —Nicholas Michael Halim (talk) 13:37, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Nicholas Michael Halim: That sentence about Dharmendra still doesn't make sense. Please reply to the

Worked on by requester comment. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:39, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done. —Nicholas Michael Halim (talk) 03:59, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I'm going to give one quick look tomorrow to see everything's in order. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:31, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Nicholas Michael Halim: I think that's everything done on my end. Best of luck with the nomination! —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:14, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Meena Kumari (book)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Kavyansh.Singh (talk · contribs) 15:04, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator: Nicholas Michael Halim (talk · contribs) at 05:15, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA criteria[edit]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Comments[edit]

as soon as she died in March 1972 — "soon after her death in March 1972"
Her performance as a desperate wife in the 1962 romantic drama Sahib Bibi Aur Ghulam is regarded as one of her career's bests — who regards it?
the film itself failed at the box office — remove 'itself'
All 3,000 copies of the first edition were sold out after six days. — exactly 3,000, or approximately 3,000?
visible, but ... it was — add a non-breaking space ({{nbsp}}) before the ellipsis.
It was received positively by many critics — this is cited to a primary source, where the author is same as the author of the book. We'll need secondary sources for such evaluative claims.
- This still needs a secondary source: Critics showed enthusiastic response to it – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 05:29, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - Done. —Nicholas Michael Halim (talk) 05:47, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Rest good. I should note that there are various primary sources used, but mostly are used for direct quotations and content of the book, which should be fine.
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Putting on hold. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 15:54, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done. —Nicholas Michael Halim (talk) 23:39, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Promoting! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 20:44, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]