Talk:Members of the 1st Dáil

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UK Parliament and 1st Dáil constituencies[edit]

All the constituencies in Ireland, used for the 1918 general election, have the dual character of being UK Parliament constituencies and Dáil constituencies. I have set up stub articles for all the UK Parliament constituencies in Ireland 1801-1922 and I am gradually filling up the contents. I have done most of the Dublin seats so far.

I presume we really need seperate articles for each kind of constituency. The information is likely to be similar, at least for those seats which were newly created in 1918, but not absolutely identical. Trying to combine both kinds of seat in one constituency article is going to cause confusion.

It is no doubt a little artificial to have say Dublin Clontarf (UK Parliament constituency), when its Sinn Féin MP never went to Westminster and Antrim East (Dáil Éireann constituency) when the Unionist TD would have wanted nothing to do with the Dáil. However I do not see a way around it. Each person elected had the choice of which body he or she joined, so every area was a potential constituency for both bodies.

I will attempt to convert my Dublin Parliament articles to Dáil ones. I see the Oireachtas web-site list of 1st Dáil members puts compass points after county names, instead of before (which was the official way the UK referred to county divisions). I will therefore follow this Irish source for the Dáil constituency articles. I am less keen on putting the name of borough divisions in brackets after the borough name, so I will not do that. I will follow the Oireachtas in which seats should have City or County after the name. There were fewer opportunities for confusion in 1918 than in earlier distributions of seats, so that should not be too controversial. --Gary J 23:36, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

By-elections[edit]

There were a number of by-elections for seats in Ireland during the 1918-22 UK Parliament. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Kingdom_by-elections_(1918%E2%80%931931)#31st_Parliament_.281919.E2.80.931922.29

31st Parliament (1919–1922)[edit]

By-election Date Incumbent Party Winner Party Cause
North Down 21 July 1922[31 1] Henry Hughes Wilson Ulster Unionist John Morrow Simms Ulster Unionist Death
North Londonderry 4 June 1922[31 1] Hugh Thom Barrie Ulster Unionist Malcolm Macnaghten Ulster Unionist Death
North Down 21 February 1922[31 1] Thomas Watters Brown Ulster Unionist Henry Hughes Wilson Ulster Unionist Appointed to the High Court of Northern Ireland
West Down 17 February 1922[31 1] Thomas Browne Wallace Ulster Unionist Hugh Hayes Ulster Unionist Appointed Chief Clerk to the High Court of Northern Ireland
South Londonderry 18 January 1922[31 1] Robert Chichester Ulster Unionist Sir William Hacket Pain Ulster Unionist Death
South Londonderry 29 August 1921[31 1] Denis Henry Ulster Unionist Robert Chichester Ulster Unionist Appointed Lord Chief Justice of Northern Ireland
Mid Down 2 July 1921[31 1] James Craig Ulster Unionist Robert Sharman-Crawford Ulster Unionist Elected Prime Minister of Northern Ireland
Mid Armagh 23 June 1921[31 1] James Rolston Lonsdale Ulster Unionist Henry Bruce Armstrong Ulster Unionist Death
Belfast Duncairn 23 June 1921[31 1] Edward Carson Ulster Unionist Thomas Edward McConnell Ulster Unionist Appointed Lord of Appeal in Ordinary
North Down 23 June 1921[31 1] Thomas Watters Brown Ulster Unionist Thomas Watters Brown Ulster Unionist Appointed Solicitor-General for Ireland
West Down 23 June 1921[31 1] Daniel Martin Wilson Ulster Unionist Thomas Browne Wallace Ulster Unionist Appointed Recorder of Belfast
Dublin University 28 July 1919[31 1] Arthur Warren Samuels Irish Unionist William Morgan Jellett Irish Unionist Appointed to the Irish High Court
East Antrim 27 May 1919[31 2] Robert Chaine Alexander McCalmont Irish Unionist George Boyle Hanna Independent Unionist Appointed Commander of the Irish Guards
North Londonderry 4 March 1919 Hugh Alfred Anderson Irish Unionist Hugh Thom Barrie Irish Unionist Resignation
  1. ^ a b c d e f g h i j k l An uncontested by-election.
  2. ^ Due to the establishment of the Parliament of Northern Ireland, the number of constituencies for Northern Ireland was substantially reduced from the 1922 general election. East Antrim was absorbed into the larger two-member Antrim constituency, which at the 1922 election was won by two official Ulster Unionists.

In Republican theory, were those elected at by-elections prior to the dissolution of the First Dail in May 1921 considered members/potential members of the Dail, in the same way as those elected to the same constituencies at the 1918 election had been? Presumably, when Patrick McGilligan of Sinn Fein fought the North Londonderry by=election on 4th March 1919 (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Londonderry_(UK_Parliament_constituency)#Elections), he would have elected to sit in the Dail if he had been successful?

If so, would it make sense to add those who won by-elections prior to that dissolution as potential members of the Dail? Alekksandr (talk) 15:09, 6 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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