Talk:Michel Bauwens

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This is all very interesting, but is not notable according to WP:BIO. All the work is self-published on the internet, with no published references. The supposed 'institute' appears to be a web page. --Backface 14:24, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think this page should be deleted, it is not noteworthyForrestLane42 09:31, 9 December 2006 (UTC)ForrestLane42[reply]

There have been at least two votes for deletion, and no supportive evidence to save the page, there was not a long enough period of time to decide consensus, and at this point it looks like its heading for deletion. I give it a STRONG DELETE, this gentlemen has done nothing noteworthy. ForrestLane42 03:42, 16 December 2006 (UTC)ForrestLane42[reply]

This guy is, from the article, the "former editor-in-chief of the first European digital convergence magazine, the Dutch language Wave" .. that Wave magazine is more or less a dutch sister of WIRED. He also wrote a screenplay for a documentary film "TechnoCalyps", and also writes many peer-reviewed journal papers, including his essay "The Political Economy of Peer Production". Not sure if this noteworthy enough for Wikipedia standard or not, but in his field, he is of course one of a big names. -- 203.131.209.66 11:05, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is only my opinion, I'm not an authority of the field anyway. -- 203.131.209.66 11:06, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Who is 203.131.209.66? Is it goethean? Ah must be. ForrestLane42 00:45, 19 December 2006 (UTC)ForrestLane42[reply]


I standby my opinion that this page should be a STRONG DELETE, since if you take Wilber versus Bauwens, Wilber wins visability than Bauwens, he is not noteworthy for wikipedia, but the consensus is in, but I believe I am not alone in the view that this page doesn't stand up to WP:Bio. 04:11, 26 December 2006 (UTC)ForrestLane42

Bauwens is one of the most important philosophers in this field hands down. I am an Australian academic and have been following Bauwen's work for many years. He has had a huge impact through his blog and wiki which both attract large amounts of traffic. He is also a regular speaker on the European and American academic conference circuit, most recently convening the first workshop on the political economy of peer production at Nottingham Trent University November 2007 (http://www.ntu.ac.uk/p2pworkshop2007/programme/index.html). He is clearly noteworthy and his entry should remain in my opinion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.186.1.190 (talk) 23:55, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Whatever it is, Michel Bauwens lives in Chiang Mai and not in Bangkog

Bauwens vs. Wilber is not even a valid comparison, since Bauwens no longer does anything remotely related to Wilber. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PaulBHartzog (talk • contribs) 20:38, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In no way notable and his 'field' does not exist. Delete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UScentric (talk • contribs) 04:02, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Extensive small clean up[edit]

I've just made numerous small changes to bring this page up to Wikipedia standards, in appearance at least.

The AFD is too stale for me to comment upon, but my impression is that this page is useful content, and I personally wouldn't bother parsing the fine print at WP:BIO. Surprise, surprise, the primary sources for a theorist in P2P collaboration are self-published by traditional standards. Seriously, here we are on Wikipedia—itself a seminal project in this space—and still we can't see the forest for the trees?

The real problem on this page is that the central section P2P theory is an incomprehensible word salad of buzzword bingo.

New thing indispensable for vaguely perceived future change!

Really? Or does his theory extend beyond organizing unexpressed sentiment in a new space of human activity into merely a denser word salad than we had before?

If you jargon, they will come. — Field of Dreams

You get the feeling that many people have drifted into this manner of loose P2P collaboration, but they all secretly feel like it's a giant circle jerk, so they hire Bauwens to give a nice little speech, and he basically says: "no, it's not just a giant circle jerk, because jargon onslaught—and don't you worry your silly little heads, the undefined modality of personal compensation is merely an exercise to be solved by future participants, who will add this missing arch stone to our fine creation any day now".

If the theory section can't become more crisp, then maybe this whole thing is a giant circle jerk, and then I retract my notability comment above, though not for reasons of sourcing as such. — MaxEnt 14:24, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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