Talk:Microscopium/GA1

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Reviewer: Curly Turkey (talk · contribs) 07:21, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

I'll take this. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 07:21, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

• Feel free to revert any of the copyedits I may have made, or to disagree with any of my following comments, some of which may not have any bearing on whether the article gets promoted. I know nothing about astronomy, so please bear with any questions I may have.

only minor headache is that I always use last two digits of pagerange, and you've gone and made them all complete/three digits. Still, there's no hard and fast rule on this and as long as they are all consistent no-one will care much. so no biggie... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:29, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Well, like I said, revert if you don't like it. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 11:48, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Prose comments

• What's the EngVar? I see both "honored" and "neighbouring".

hmm, should be British English - will align all I see Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:00, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

• What's with the ????? under "|meteorshowers"?

leftover from article's creation - researched now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:01, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

• /ˌmaɪkrəˈskɒpiəm/ — is this really the pronunciation?

hmm....all the constellations seem to have them, and doesn't agree with this or this either...I'd always pronounced the 'o' long - never noticed that the phonetic alphabet has text helping on hover...will look into this. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:18, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Well, if it's not sourced, and it's no the pronunciation you're familiar with, it might be best to drop it. It's not like the name will give readers headaches the way some of these Latin-derived names do. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 11:48, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

• Is it normal to have the "History" section before the "Characteristics" section? There's a logic to it, but I wonder if that's what readers would expect or be looking for first.

meh, slotted it at the bottom - does help with images :) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:20, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

• the non-tropical northern hemisphere: the linked article capitalizes "Northern Hemisphere"—is this optional, or EngVar?

nah, laziness - fixed now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:20, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

• may previously been seen as: should this be something like "may previously have been seen as"? The source doesn't seem to think there's any "may" about it.

tried rewriting to align closer to source Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:00, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

• he did not pinpoint their positions: Al-Sufi or Ptolemy? The source seems ambiguous on this as well.

it's Al Sufi- tricky to try and write this without sounding repetitive - the easiest is to put "Al Sufi" in parentheses after the "he" in question......? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:09, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

I've taken a crack at it. Revert it if you don't like it. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 10:25, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

• adopted by the International Astronomical Union in 1922, is 'Mic' : should those not be double quotes?

all other constellations have single quotes here - not sure why that came about... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:29, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

• HR 8076, `HR 8110: is that backtick supposed to be there? It's not in the linked article.

oops, removed...(how'd that get there...) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:00, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

• 12.9 light-years from our solar system: I was taught there was only one Solar System. Is this not the case?

linked and capped Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:00, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

• are challenging stars for beginners: in what ways?

presumably hard to find on charts due to lack of distinctive patterns in neighbouring stars and quite faint at times, so hard to follow. I am assuming this but unfortunately the source doesn't spell out why..... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:00, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Images

• All three images are appropriately licenced.
• There's sandwiching with the first two images and the rather long infobox. Could at least one of the images not be moved? There's a lot of space further down the article.

moved one down - tricky to move the historical one as that's where the text is Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:00, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps if the article were re-ordered so the "History" section came later? Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 10:30, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

• You've set image sizes for them, which normally is best to avoid as it overrides user settings. The 250px you've set is only marginally bigger than the default 220px.

removed them. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:00, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Sources

• For Lacaille 1756, what does "page=519– [589]" mean?

means the relevant note is on that page...I forgot to put last page of article, added now...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:26, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

• What make's Ian Ridpath's site a RS? Normally we are to avoid such sources per WP:SELFPUBLISH. Who is Ridpath? (now I can see you've cited another work by him published by Princeton. I imagine it's okay, then).

yeah.....Ian Ridpath has written alot of astronomy books (e.g. see on google) and has his own website Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:00, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

• Same may apply to Kaler, though as he's Prof. Emeritus of Astronomy, University of Illinois, and the site's obviously not a blog, I can't imagine anyone raising a fuss. (You might want to back up the page at archive.org or something).
• I don't see anything like plagiarism or close paraphrasing going on here. If the Lacaille citation can be cleared up, sources should be fine.

Etc

As far as I can tell, the article seems comprehensive and well-written. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 09:53, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

• Pass another Good Article. I might play around with the image placements to avoid the sandwiching that's still there, and I'd probably either source or drop the IPA. I'd also look into the single-quoting, if only to find out why it's done. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 11:52, 4 April 2015 (UTC)