Talk:Milan Obrenović, Prince of Serbia/Archive 1

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This is a nice little article. However, we call him Milan II, the Dutch article has Milan III and the German has Milan I. The Serbians don't even give him a number. I translated the Hebrew from the English, so that doesn't count. Does anyone know? Danny 01:35, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, it confused the hell out of me too. Our list of Serbian monarchs goes Miloš I, Milan II, Mihailo III, then I and III again, then Milan IV... presumably our listing goes by Obrenović X rather than (Forename) X. Then the numbers start again for the kings. If you look on that page under Nemanjići, we see the same thing again - lots of Stefans, but mostly I or II.

On Monarchen der jüngeren serbischen Geschichte, however, we see that they count by forenames - so this is Milan I, then his successor Mihailo for our Mihailo III, then Milan II for our Milan IV.

As for the Dutch, I have no idea how that page got Milan III. Confusion with the fact that the next one up was definitely Milan IV, and this one was pretty obscure, so they backfilled? Shimgray | talk | 01:56, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Could someone please make sure about the last sentence? It looks sort of like vandalism

Sorry for the skepticism --Rdoger6424 03:18, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

I added that bit in the original :-). There was a comment on Mihailo Obrenović III about this: His reign was to be short-lived, and he died on July 8, 1839 without having recovered consciousness and perhaps never realizing the crown was in his own hands. Tracing it back, that was added by an anon - [1] - along with most of the rest of the biography; it certainly seems plausible, given his illness and the short period of time he was in power. Shimgray | talk | 03:25, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

In the serbian wikipedia you see the position of reign after Milan in the article Обреновићи (Obrenovic), so there are Milan I, Milan (without a number) and Milan II (the one we named Milan III). The correct title here would be Milan II Obrenovic.24.201.33.48 20:00, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Encyclopaedia Britannica ([2]) also calls him Milan III. Känsterle 15:45, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

never regained consciousness

Never regained consciousness from what? The article doesn't even mention him going unconscious.--The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 19:20, 13 June 2015 (UTC)