Talk:Mission Dolores Park

Oct. 27 2009: Why does it say the park is "two blocks tall by one block wide"? It's 4 blocks wide by one block tall, if you were standing at the "entrance on Dolores st. and 19th looking toward Church st. Look at the map. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.173.107 (talk) 04:20, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

If you're standing on 19th St, one "block" in either direction would take you to 18th or 20th Sts, not Hancock or Cumberland. It makes more sense to define this area's city blocks in the north-south direction by the numbered streets, since named streets like Hancock, Cumberland, and Hill start and end inconsistently. --209.2.219.250 (talk) 19:18, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Image:Dolorespark.jpg

This photo is really unrepresentative of the park. First, it's a photo of 10% of the park, and not even from the top where the panoramic view can be found. Second, most of the photo is of a dry field. I suggest removing this photo and replacing it. I'll try to do this asap. —Viriditas | Talk 10:45, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Replaced lead image with Image:Dolores park.jpg. This is still only about 50% of the park. I did find panoramic views of the entire park on flickr that were appropriately licensed, but they were of poor quality. —Viriditas | Talk 11:19, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Dolores Park renovation and closure

Someone should update this article with information on the renovation and closure: SFist, Uptown Almanac, San Francisco Recreation and Parks Department (PDF) --209.2.219.250 (talk) 19:22, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

The Origins of Dolores Park's Name

I tip my hat off to DoloresParkLover! It's about time that somebody set the record straight behind the true history of Dolores Park's name. I was born in San Francisco in the 1970's, and have lived my entire life in the Dolores Park neighborhood. It's always been called Dolores Park as far back as I can remember. From what I was told by my parents and other family members, it was first called Mission Park after being vacated by the Jewish cemetery. Later on it was rechristened Dolores Park after Hidalgo and Dolores alongside the new statues dedicated in the 1960's. This sounds like a more plausible history than the Mission Dolores Park BS, as there exists no official city document proving it was named after "Mission Dolores Park". People sometimes believe in what they perceive as the truth, even if it means making up their own facts along the way. Thank god we have those two statues to prove the historical revisionists wrong!MBaxter1 (talk) 21:43, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

I found much of this poorly written. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.39.15.114 (talk) 02:48, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

It is also made up. From wikipedia's article on San Francisco: "The mission is open to visitors, and is located on Dolores Street near its intersection with 16th Street. The San Francisco neighborhood closely surrounding the historic Mission is known as Mission Dolores, and the much larger Mission District is named for it as well." From the article on Mission Dolores: "The settlement was named for St. Francis of Assisi, the founder of the Franciscan Order, but was also commonly known as "Mission Dolores" owing to the presence of a nearby creek named Arroyo de Nuestra Señora de los Dolores[.]" The park is named after the neighborhood, which is named after the mission. The fact of statues is nice but proves nothing. 173.174.85.204 (talk) 14:52, 19 April 2016 (UTC)Eric

Yes, DoloresParkLover's edits look like a good example demonstrating why Wikipedia articles should not be based on hearsay and original research ("Logic, however, dictates ..."). There is no doubt that the park's official name is "Mission Dolores Park", see e.g. the various SF Rec & Park pages cited. What's more: I just added a detailed paragraph regarding the 1966 addition of the replica bell and statue (in a ceremony attended by the Mexican president), but none of the sources I reviewed mentioned a renaming of the park on that occasion. In any case, it stands to reason that most locals are more likely to associate the park's name with the street that runs right next to it and the mission from which the district got its name (and the high school that dominates views from the park) than a town in another country thousands of miles away. (Not all of the Mission's Latino residents have Mexican roots, BTW.) Regards, HaeB (talk) 23:02, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

PS: Found this in the 2011 Historic Resource Evaluation (which is probably the canonical reference on the park's history at this point), and added it to the article:

"Between 1967 and the present, Mission Park gradually acquired the vernacular name 'Dolores Park,' presumably in recognition of its association with both Mission Dolores and Dolores Street. Today, the name Mission Park has been completely superseded".

That should lay to rest the above claim that it "was rechristened Dolores Park after Hidalgo and Dolores alongside the new statues [sic] dedicated in the 1960's" (the bell was installed in 1966, the statue of Hidalgo in 1962). Be aware that because the faulty information had been in this article for more than four years since 2012, it's possible that some less reliable sources picked it up from here; i.e. there is a risk of WP:CITOGENESIS now.

Regards, HaeB (talk) 03:23, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

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