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Article name[edit]

I've moved the article from Philip II Wall to Moorish Wall as the latter seems to be the most popular name and is the name used in the Gibraltar Heritage Trust Act. The article could probably do with an explanation of the etymology of the name Moorish Wall in its prose rather than in a note. --Gibmetal 77^{talk 2 me} 22:42, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Existance?[edit]

Presumably the wall (at least part of it) is still standing. However, I fail to find evidence of this on Google Maps... --Gibmetal 77^{talk 2 me} 21:36, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There does not seem to be much left of this wall. The old maps show where it ran, and presumably there are traces on the ground, not visible from satellite. The names are arbitrary. Neither wall was Moorish, but both were called Moorish at different times. The Philip II wall (this one) was completed before the Charles V wall. The Spanish did not use those names for either of them. Aymatth2 (talk) 00:21, 17 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Aymatth. Which is the other "Moorish Wall" you're referring to? --Gibmetal 77^{talk 2 me} 11:09, 17 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Chipulina's essay, which is backed up by reproductions of old maps, seems reliable. If you scan down to "Skinner", Chipulina discusses evidence that there may have been a genuinely Moorish wall to the south of the other two, roughly in line with the new mole. A bit further down, Chipulina describes Hermann Moll's 1720 map which called the north wall "The Barrier" and the south one (Charles V) "Old Moorish Wall - decayed". This is academic. What counts is what they are called today.

I am uncomfortable with the article title "Moorish Wall", which is very generic - presumably there are hundreds of Moorish walls scattered around the Mediterranean - and would prefer "Moorish Wall, Gibraltar." Ditto Flat Bastion and South Bastion. Aymatth2 (talk) 12:46, 17 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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