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Hey, Help Me Plz

Hello my name is Tim Shrum I am 34 years old and I am from Granite City Illinois, Been there my while life. Well anyone around 6 years ago I lost my oldest Brother to a diabetic Coma. It was the worst day of my life by far I couldn't stand the feeling of what had just happend, but most of all my mom was the worst off being that she had just lost her oldest son pass before her. It devested all of us around the whole family. I mean now I had to explain to people in my family story that I had 4 brother but 1 had passed. Now my mother at this point after even 6 years she doesn't come out of here room much. So i still at 34 live with her and my dad but my dad is working all the time to pay bills and I have nothing because I have been watching over my mom who has never recovered. Is what im asking is if u could come maybe suprise my family my dad has to work so much. To Top it all off I am in the process of getting social security disability because I had Had 2 Open Heart Surgeries before the age of 4, also 5 hernia surgeries and i just cant do it. I have no car no ride from here to there. If i can get some kind of help I just feel like giving up man. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.132.95.157 (talk) 05:33, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Talk pages of articles concerning people are not somewhere to attempt to contact said people. SK2242 (talk) 15:15, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 March 2021

Add a link for jacksucksatlife 103.17.233.219 (talk) 01:42, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: Page is salted so a redlink would be inappropriate. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 01:48, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 March 2021

Lollollol128 (talk) 19:19, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

lol beans

@Lollollol128: please use WP:SANDBOX for test edits. RudolfRed (talk) 19:34, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

ok — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:115F:836:1200:68E0:5CAC:92C7:4B47 (talk) 20:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 March 2021

mr.beast will become president when he turns 35 and can run for president 2603:7080:5106:F67F:7C95:3D21:3ED4:5268 (talk) 12:53, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. SK2242 (talk) 13:10, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Archive 1 Archive 2 Archive 3

Typo

It’s “up and coming” rather than “upcoming” 108.200.158.229 (talk) 02:15, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Not a typo. 207.81.187.41 (talk) 02:30, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Album > Mr Beast

Why does a random album come up before Mr beast — Preceding unsigned comment added by GameOfAwesome (talkcontribs) 15:40, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Because MrBeast (no space) and Mr Beast are different article titles. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 15:50, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

from Raleigh, North Carolina

Not from Wichita.KS he is from Raleigh, North Carolina There is a scamer that has opened a Facebook account also saying he is from Wichita.KS. 174.210.135.87 (talk) 03:16, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

introductory paragraph subscriber count

please update. it says "34 million subscribers" in the intro, but he is now at over 80million. --91.64.58.74 (talk) 18:45, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Actually, nope. Because of Wikipedia:Verifiability, the source Tubefilter supports the claim that he had more than 34 million subscribers in May 2020. 207.81.187.41 (talk) 20:30, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Just wondering, does a person’s YouTube channel count as a reliable source for the basic viewership and subscriber amounts? Thegamebegins25 (talk) 18:49, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Consensus seems to be that the channel stats can be used for the infobox, but in the body of the article numbers need to be supported by an independent source. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 18:52, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 April 2022

That he got a golden typewriter worth 1,000 dollars at 100k dollars 162.210.247.171 (talk) 18:55, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: See WP:RS. Needs a third-party reliable source for inclusion. SK2242 (talk) 19:16, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Infobox image

I recently added a YouTube Creative Commons licensed image to the infobox (MrBeast 2021.jpg), but others don't like it? I personally think the 2021 image is a pretty good depiction of Donaldson. I also don't think the angle should matter either as long as you can see his entire face. I'm okay if the image changes, and I don't really care enough to revert again, but I'm open to some input about this. Sparkltalk 12:09, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Although on the 15th April I was reluctant to the image being changed, I don't really have much preference over which image in Category:MrBeast is better. Sahaib (talk) 21:01, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
Was bold and added the image to the 2021 section of the article. It seemed to make the most sense at the moment and it fits quite well with the content of the section. Hope this doesn't cause any trouble. Sparkltalk 22:10, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

mrbeast gaming

Well.add more content about his gaming channel 41.116.35.105 (talk) 11:26, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Channel

He shares a channel with JackSucksAtLife called Don't Subscribe with over 1 million subscribers. This channel started as a competion with Jimmy. If Jack Was able to get the Don't Subscribe channel to 1,000,000 Subscribers. Jimmy would pay Jack 100,000 2001:BB6:7B31:7300:7958:66B8:7E93:4BE (talk) 11:28, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

A small one off channel isn't notable enough to be included in this article with his other active channels. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 12:01, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Viewer demographics info should be added

Demographics info would be relevant to the article. (Based on the content it looks like it mostly appeals to teenagers, but I don't know how to retrieve the demographics info for a channel.) 76.132.248.201 (talk) 17:24, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 July 2022

Add time to the "Profitability" section.

Profitability (2021–present)

Donaldson in a collaboration video in 2021. He further became known for his stunts with other Internet personalities. On January 1, 2021, Donaldson released the video "Youtube Rewind 2020, Thank God It's Over". He previously announced in November 2020 that he would be making a Rewind days after YouTube announced that they would not be making one. In Donaldson's video, he explains that he had always believed that YouTubers "should get more say in Rewind," and with this in mind, he decided to call "hundreds of YouTubers." At the end of the video, Donaldson gives a shoutout to PewDiePie, citing him and his 2018 Rewind as the inspiration for Donaldson's Rewind.[38]

A month later, Donaldson signed a Facebook and Snapchat content distribution deal with Jellysmack.[39][40]

In November 2021, Donaldson uploaded a recreation of the survival drama streaming television series Squid Game in real life, in which 456 people competed for a $456,000 cash prize, without the violence in the show.[41] The video has more than 272 million views as of July 19, 2022,[42] making it Donaldson's most-viewed YouTube video and also making it one of the most-watched YouTube videos of 2021.[43] Though highly successful, the video also garnered controversy from some commentators, who saw it as taking away from the emotional resonance of the television series and for being "unoriginal" and "meaningless content".[citation needed] A review of the video in Vice stated that it "badly misunderstood the anti-capitalist message of Squid Game".[44]

In December 2021, Donaldson created a third influencer tournament featuring 15 competitors with a grand prize of $1,000,000.[B][45][46][47] The tournament took place in person at the SoFi Stadium in Inglewood, California, and the challenge consisted of two rounds. The first round of the tournament featured 10 different challenges between 15 competitors, and the second round featured 10 winners from the first round competing in a hide-and-seek competition. The tournament was ultimately won by Zach King.[48][49][better source needed]

In January 2022, Forbes ranked MrBeast as YouTube's highest-earning creator, earning an estimated $54 million in 2021. Forbes also stated that his income in 2021 would have placed him 40th in the 2020 Forbes Celebrity 100, earning as much money as Vin Diesel and Lewis Hamilton did in 2020.[50][51]

On July 28, 2022, at 2:50 PM EST, Donaldson reached 100 million subscribers on his main channel.[52] This makes him the 5th channel to achieve 100 million. 2600:6C67:4A7F:B094:1C89:CD36:A0C:2CAF (talk) 19:19, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

 Already done Aaron Liu (talk) 14:45, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

MrBeast Arabic channel

MrBeast added a first video in Arabic language. If possible add his international channel list. Here is a link. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbHU7ouxaMgfyWSUtI4QK8Q (MrBeast in Arabic - مستر بيست بالعربي) EdytaGi77 (talk) 20:57, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Done, thanks! Qwaiiplayer (talk) 12:05, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Renaming of section to "Controversies"

This section used to be titled "public image", but given that no new information has been added to balance out the negative publicity in this section since June 2022 (when the NPOV template was added), I went ahead and renamed the section. The previous section on his philanthropy is already enough to ensure NPOV and so it would make more sense to have that section just be for controversy. Threedotshk (talk) 06:44, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Should be avoided per WP:CONTROVERSYSECTION, and the first paragraph of that section isnt negative --FMSky (talk) 07:00, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

several things

1. non-unique combined sub count is not interesting. this should be removed.

2. date that he hit 112m subs is not significant. should be removed from intro body.

3. "most of his videos hit 10ms views" does not do it justice. check his channel. 216.164.249.213 (talk) 17:47, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

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Add back the full YouTube channel list

All but two of his channels were removed from the channel list for some reason. Only his main channel and his philanthropy channel are there now. It doesn't make sense for the philanthropy channel to be there and not the react or gaming channel since both of those are bigger and have a lot more uploads than the philanthropy channel. His Mrbeast2 channel also has more subs than the philanthropy channel. I also think the other language channels should be added back considering they also have a lot of success. The purpose of this site is to inform. Then it is a responsibility to include a full list of all his channels. These other channels have millions of subs, they are not some random alt-account with a few dozen followers. Sapiently (talk) 17:05, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

The guidelines towards YouTuber infoboxes as a whole was discussed here back in September. Consensus ultimately was that secondary channels should not be included unless covered by reliable sources. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 00:05, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Oh. Alright that makes sense. How do you end this topic? Not sure how to do it, could you do it? Thanks. Sapiently (talk) 00:17, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

It'll get automatically archived eventually. No need to close it. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 05:27, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Change some things

Change "Donaldson's main YouTube channel, which had 112.2 million subscribers as of November 17, 2022, is called "MrBeast". To "Donaldson's main YouTube channel, which has 119 million subscribers as of December 14, 2022, is called "MrBeast". 2603:8081:8900:55FC:F4CB:DF8C:6BF8:5293 (talk) 15:50, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

It may be a bit cumbersome because its still counting up. Ozziebro (talk) 05:02, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
You are off by seven million dude just fix it it'll take 30 seconds 2603:8081:8900:55FC:7C6C:9FD5:B1D9:45CF (talk) 17:38, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
There is an invisible comment by what you want to replace: Do not add subscriber counts sourced to the channels themselves. Instead, use reliable secondary sources. Personally, I disagree with this, since we're using the primary-sourced count in the infobox. It feels silly to only use secondaries in the prose. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 18:19, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Update the subscriber count

Please 2603:8081:8900:55FC:31BB:AF8C:E6F1:C742 (talk) 00:03, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Find a source and you are welcome to update it. :) Moops T 00:04, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 December 2022

2603:8081:8702:1C99:C478:F63:84D0:A081 (talk) 22:56, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

Change "as of November 27, 2022, this video has over 297 views"to "as of December 24, 2022, this video has over325 million views."

 Done casualdejekyll 01:02, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

MrBeast YouTube channel now subscribers as 123 million.

MrBeast YouTube channel had 123 million subscribers as of December 26, 2022 Blogsite1 (talk) 04:53, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 December 2022

Blogsite1 (talk) 05:03, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

MrBeast YouTube channel now 123 million subscribers as of December 26, 2022 Blogsite1 (talk) 05:04, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

 Already done Lemonaka (talk) 12:42, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

Unsourced WP:DOB

@FMSky: You recently restored this person's date of birth stating "WP:ABOUTSELF, source is fine" Unfortunately, the source that supports that sentence (The Alexander article in the Verge) doesn't mention his DOB and ABOUTSELF doesn't appear to apply to that source. Can you add the self-published source that you think supports this DOB to the sentence or revert your restoration of the DOB please? Toddst1 (talk) 22:47, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

check the source thats currently in the article pls --FMSky (talk) 23:04, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
Thanks. The Pellot article seems solid. I figured I missed something - you're usually quite solid. Cheers! Toddst1 (talk) 23:23, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 January 2023

(original) In December 2022, two MrBeast outfits and other cosmetic items were added to Fortnite Battle Royale. (Edit Request) In December 2022, two MrBeast skins and other cosmetic items were added to Fortnite Battle Royale. 2A02:1811:D511:4700:4C17:5881:603C:816E (talk) 11:17, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

 Not done "Outfits" is the language used in the source and what the cosmetics are called in game. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 13:15, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

No criticism section at all?

The guy becomes rich and famous from poverty, by never speaking about the policies that cause poverty. Surely there must be some sources that expose that hypocrisy. fs 05:15, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Per WP:CRITS,

"[...] the word 'Criticism' should be avoided in section titles because it may convey a negative connotation to many readers."

"Other than for articles about particular worldviews, philosophies or religious topics etc. where different considerations apply (see below), best practice is to incorporate positive and negative material into the same section. For example, if a politician received significant criticism about their public image, create a section entitled 'Public image' or 'Public profile', and include all related information—positive and negative—within that section."

Indeed, in the public image section, info about MrBeast - both positive and negative - are included.
I'd actually argue that there is too much negative info about MrBeast in that section; only the first paragraph mentions any positives about him. Because most people view him positively (he doesn't film himself doing charitable and philanthropic acts for nothing!), we should add more info about the favorable views people hold on MrBeast per WP:UNDUE, though info about his controversies should remain. FromtheEndofElo (talk) 04:11, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Wrong information

Mrbeast is not the most subscribed solo youtuber, pewdiepie is. Mrbeast has an entire crew that helps him with and appear in all of his videos. 2603:8081:8900:55FC:54EE:D48E:5FE8:825D (talk) 18:33, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

What matters is what sources say; do they draw that distinction? It's still his channel even if he appears with a group; he doesn't have to be the only person in his videos. 331dot (talk) 21:25, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

I don't get your guys' obsession with sources. The most important "source" is his very own channel, in which you see him pay hundreds of people to help him monitor, set up, build the sets for, edit, and even record his videos. Mrbeast is obviously not a solo youtuber, so change it. because this article has wrong information. Simple as that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:8081:8900:55FC:54EE:D48E:5FE8:825D (talk) 14:45, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

One of the most important principles on Wikipedia is verifiability. This is why we "obsess" about sources. Wikipedia doesn't claim that the information presented on it is correct, only that it is verifiable. See the Wikipedia:General disclaimer. It's up to readers to verify the sources to determine if the information presented is accurate. It's still "his channel", even if he pays people to help him produce its content. Anyone on YouTube can do that. 331dot (talk) 15:24, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Change this

Change, "making it the fourth-most-subscribed on the platform, and the highest as a non-corporate identity." to "making it the fourth-most-subscribed on the platform." The word "corporate" means "relating to a corporation, especially a large company or group." Mrbeast does not only have a large group, but also the Mrbeast burger franchise and the Feastables chocolate bars. It is incorrect to label him as a "non-corporate identity", whatever that means. I'm not sure that's even a word. 2603:8081:8900:55FC:C9CB:8CC:4C8A:4CBD (talk) 17:58, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

@331dot yo are you gonna respond to this or not CC8200 (talk) 15:17, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
jeez all these guys just ghost me whenever I'm right lol, and yes this is me before I made my account CC8200 (talk) 15:17, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
What is it that you want me to respond to? 331dot (talk) 15:21, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
Change, "making it the fourth-most-subscribed on the platform, and the highest as a non-corporate identity." to "making it the fourth-most-subscribed on the platform." The word "corporate" means "relating to a corporation, especially a large company or group." Mrbeast does not only have a large group, but also the Mrbeast burger franchise and the Feastables chocolate bars. It is incorrect to label him as a "non-corporate identity", whatever that means. I'm not sure that's even a word. 2603:8081:8900:55FC:C9CB:8CC:4C8A:4CBD (talk) 17:58, 3 February 2023 (UTC) CC8200 (talk) 15:23, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
What sources do you have to support this proposed change? There is a difference between MrBeast's personal YouTube account and one for his businesses. Him paying people to help him produce its content does not make him a corporation. A corporation is a legal entity; if he has created a corporation to manage his personal Wikipedia account, that would be public record(and would also likely have independent reliable sources to support that). 331dot (talk) 15:27, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
He has feastables and Mrbeast bars, those make him part of a "large company or group". CC8200 (talk) 15:32, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
Feastables/Mr Beast Bars are seperate companies, like 331 said, not the Youtube channel itself. The "Mr Beast" Youtube channel is not a public corporation, so "non-corperate" is correct Realtent (talk) 18:31, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Creator Awards

MrBeast wasn’t given an official 50million sub. creator award from YouTube just from a friend, but saying that he has one in the creator awards section gives off the wrong idea that YouTube gave him one even after they stopped giving them out. Muddyfiend (talk) 17:30, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 February 2023

Remove the 50Million Creator Award from his page as he has never been given an official one from YouTube just from a friend, but saying that he has one gives the wrong message that YouTube did give him one even after they stopped giving them out. Muddyfiend (talk) 17:28, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Muddyfiend Muddyfiend (talk) 17:29, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

 Already done Lightoil (talk) 02:24, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 February 2023

Replace "57th Super Bowl" with "Super Bowl LVII" Spookycheems (talk) 03:38, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

I mean change "In February 2023, he appeared in the NFL viral commercial that aired during the 57th Super Bowl." With "In February 2023, he appeared in the NFL viral commercial that aired during the Super Bowl LVII." Spookycheems (talk) 03:41, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
Correction: "In February 2023, he appeared in the NFL viral commercial that aired during Super Bowl LVII" Spookycheems (talk) 03:42, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

 Done

Cj donaldson is an adoptive brother not just brother

Yes it is. Please can you explain it. 2404:8000:1027:85F6:3D02:28FD:F813:760B (talk) 20:03, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Can you provide a source that says he is adopted? To my knowledge he has never said CJ is adopted. Realtent (talk) 21:29, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

A previous editor wiped a whole paragraph 2 months ago.

Here is the relevant diff: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MrBeast&diff=prev&oldid=1128443004.

The blanking of this paragraph by User:Praqlon went unnoticed. The source is reliable and still in the article.

Would it be possible to restore it? 128.6.37.125 (talk) 20:10, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 March 2023

I am just going to edit the stats up to date like the current subscribers and views. PawilStha (talk) 12:42, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. You'll need to provide the exact edit, or wait until you're WP:AUTOCONFIRMED. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:52, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

I know this is someone YouTube video but this does dive deeper into his religious beliefs. at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS3UNIotoOg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.205.140.220 (talk) 12:59, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Crew member info

To the person who incorrectly made the crew member replacing edit: here's a helpful video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAAj1pc48hI. A good amount of this info should maybe be on the page too. TitanicFog (talk) 02:10, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 April 2023

The super bowl ad wasn't actually aired on the super bowl. On twitter mrbeast says that he couldn't afford it. Change it to he had an ad for the super bowl, but wasn't able to get it on air 209.141.160.137 (talk) 14:53, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

https://twitter.com/MrBeast/status/1625584585290440727?lang=en link to his twitter. Change In February 2023, he appeared in a viral commercial for the NFL which aired during Super Bowl LVII to In February 2023, he appeared in a viral commercial for the NFL which did not air during super bowl LVII. 209.141.160.137 (talk) 14:57, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Paper9oll (🔔📝) 14:41, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
I put his tweet, that he made with his account. is that not good enough? the tweet was also the original source of the tweet. 209.141.160.137 (talk) 15:58, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
If you review the references currently in the article, it looks like there were two ads, one he would have purchased and appeared in and one someone else purchased in which he did appear. Izno (talk) 05:00, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
And the tweet you provide above is clearly a joke to boot. Izno (talk) 05:02, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 April 2023 (2)

MrBeast is not dead - or there is at least no sufficient evidence on the internet from a trustworthy source to prove so. I recommend removing the death date of him as soon as possible. Thank you. 2600:8807:C47:9A00:9C3D:1C15:EEBC:47A (talk) 04:59, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

 Already done - this appears to have been removed almost an hour before this request was made. Tollens (talk) 06:43, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Updated Chris Image

Can someone find an updated CC image for Chris? I feel like the current one is not representative of how they are now. I'm unexperienced in that department.

~Skylar (talk) 23:34, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Skylar, I concur that their picture should probably be updated given their quite significant change in appearance. However, unfortunately, looking at the Free Image Search Tool & CC Search, I did not find any images. I guess we'll just have to wait until someone takes another CC image of them... {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 22:22, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 April 2023

Shadowgentro (talk) 15:19, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

MrBeast is the second most subscribed YouTuber

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. JTP (talkcontribs) 18:48, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 April 2023


  • What I think should be changed (format using {{textdiff}}): I think the following removed section should be readded in Controversy: [1]
  • Why it should be changed: It was a POV/whitewashing removal of sourced content which went unnoticed.
  • References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): This diff. [2] shows User:Praqlon deleting the sourced content, which went unnoticed as he made another edit simultaneously.

128.6.36.233 (talk) 19:55, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

References

 Done Actualcpscm (talk) 20:07, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 April 2023

In the Infobox, the number needs to be updated as MrBeast has 148 million subscribers. 2604:3D08:9476:BE00:B4BD:3FE2:4E6C:AB6F (talk) 23:20, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 23:35, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

mrbeast's religion

mrbeast said in a podcast with Logan Paul that he is agnostic, that should be to the wiki Al-Aidaroos 18:44, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

@Noice Catto: Do you have a reliable source that says this? If so do you think it is appropriate for the article. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 18:49, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
i do have a link of a video of him saying that Al-Aidaroos 18:50, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
he says it in this podacst Al-Aidaroos 19:00, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Change file

Can someone change it to JimmyDonaldson.jpg? I didn't take it myself, but it's a free file. Graywastakensoimusingthisinstead (talk) 18:39, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

@Graywastakensoimusingthisinstead: And where did you find this file? Cause it seems like you took it from CNN which means you stole their image without giving them credit and it's a copyright violation so it's not free. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 18:44, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
I gave them credit Graywastakensoimusingthisinstead (talk) 18:55, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
@Graywastakensoimusingthisinstead: That's still not appropriate. Commons cannot accept copyrighted images even if credit is given. I've requested the file be deleted since we cannot leave copyright violations up. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:00, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
I had no idea @Blaze Wolf Graywastakensoimusingthisinstead (talk) 19:02, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
@Graywastakensoimusingthisinstead: Pretty much everything you find on the internet is copyrighted and not freely reusable unless it explicitly says so. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:04, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 May 2023

On the Staples Minnesota page it shows that Mr Beast is from Staples Minnesota so it should say on his Wikipedia page that is where he is from. 69.168.245.112 (talk) 13:49, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Removed from Staples, Minnesota due to having no source and therefore being a violation of WP:BLP. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 13:52, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Festables Draft

Side note:I created a draft about the Festables chocolate bar company that MrBeast made, should this be an article? CostalCal (talk) 23:11, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Name

@Jonny Nixon: I don't see why the source would need to specify that its his real name. That's kind of implied unless it specifically says its a nickname. Also, that name is used throughout the article. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:17, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

@Jonny Nixon: Do you have anything to say about this? You've edited after I posted this comment and I'm trying not to edit war here. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:39, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
According to one of his staff members, MrBeast's birth name is something that is not Jimmy Donaldson. Some1 (talk) 12:25, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
Do you have a source to back this up? Otherwise that's WP:OR. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 12:27, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
I'm not sure if I'm allowed to link it here, but it's a comment made by one of MrBeast's staff members on reddit. Obviously reddit does not meet the criteria for WP:RS, especially for a BLP, but it's better to err on the safe side and exclude the 'birth_name' parameter from the infobox if there's a dispute about whether "Jimmy Donaldson" is his birth name. Some1 (talk) 12:36, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
It isn't disputed since it is supported by a reliable source. Reddit isn't reliable. Hell we don't even know if that person on Reddit actually is one of MrBeast's staff members. The source doesn't state its his birth name because they have no reason to specify that. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 12:54, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
I found some actual sources for Donaldson's full name, so I have added it. Strugglehouse (talk) 18:48, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
Are you sure it didn't start with someone editing Wikipedia? It was initially concluded to be a Wikipedia hoax that copied its way into news and removed back in 2021. Or maybe it was just unsourced and then reverted back after over a week as a result. 154.20.213.253 (talk) 01:54, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
"Jimmy" is a common nickname for James (given name), so it's nothing too surprising. The reddit comment by one of MrBeast's staff members that I referenced above spells his middle name differently though (but both pronounced the same way). Some1 (talk) 01:35, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
@Some1 Since all the reliable sources say "Steven" instead of "Stephen", we should keep that. The staff member probably just spelled the name wrong. Strugglehouse (talk) 18:19, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
@Some1 I have done some research and I have found out that Donaldson's father's name is "Stephen", and people do often take their father's name. All reliable sources for Donaldson's middle name say "Steven", so I have kept that name, but I have added a note stating his father's name and giving a link to the staff member's comment. Strugglehouse (talk) 18:43, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
I guess this is one of those rare cases where the reliable sources are incorrect about a subject's name. I'm not sure how reliable Tar River News is, but this post from them on Facebook [3] has his middle name spelled as Stephen. His LLC business registration listed on OpenCorporates has his middle name spelled as "Stephen". But since public records are disallowed for BLPs per WP:BLPPRIMARY, it can't be used in the article. Your note is a decent compromise... though I do wonder now if the misspelled middle name in this article will cause some sort of WP:CITOGENESIS. Maybe removing his middle name from the article or having his middle name listed as an "S." instead with the footnote stating that sources conflict on the spelling of his middle name is a better option. Some1 (talk) 01:56, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
@Some1 Since there are other sources that list Donaldson's name, listing OpenCorporates just within the footnote might be okay. We can see a somewhat similar instance of this at Wilbur Soot, where his first name was disputed. There is a footnote on there explaining this, and it references Companies House within the footnote.
I agree with you on not wanting to create a WP:CITOGENESIS situation, so I think we could just change it to "S.", with a note.
Could you send a link to the Tar River News Facebook article, and the OpenCorporates entry so I can have a look? Strugglehouse (talk) 08:57, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
@Some1 I have updated the spelling and the footnote. Strugglehouse (talk) 11:23, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 June 2023

Arranging the subscriber count and updating informations Castlequeen123456789 (talk) 15:43, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Actualcpscm (talk) 16:03, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Determine religious affiliation

Is Mr. Beast Agnostic or Agnostic theism?

https://youtube.com/shorts/1eCTBVxuSew?feature=share

Everything he mentioned is agnostic…Why was it put on Agnostic theism? Clerk18890 (talk) 22:04, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Titanic Submarine Tweet

@PerfectSoundWhatever yo. You reverted my “alleged” edit and said “it was his tweet, there is no half-truths here.” But anyone can post a tweet of a screenshot of a text that says anything. There is no definitive proof that he received an invitation from OceanGate or their CEO. If I were to put out a social media post that states I received an invitation to the submarine, are you automatically supposed to believe me? HappyBoi3892 (talk) 19:22, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

@HappyBoi3892: The sentence in the article says he "stated that he was invited to go", not that "he was invited to go". With Wikipedia attributing that its MrBeast's statement, the "alleged" is pointless and adds complication. The "alleged" adds undue doubt instead of just saying it how it is. I probably should have explained better in my summary. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 19:34, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 July 2023

Kris Tyson has come out as a trans woman, and her name and pronouns should be changed thusly. 2603:6011:4200:B8B4:6C62:B3CA:8CDE:1BFC (talk) 20:18, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

 Already done, but you may want to check it in case I missed any. Xan747 (talk) 01:22, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Sadly, someone has come along and undid this and added more transphobia, I detailed it below. Tallbutshy (talk) 11:19, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
has been reverted --FMSky (talk) 11:24, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

Revert needed because somebody has added transphobia about Kris Tyson - 21 July 2023

Someone has added "cosplaying as a woman although he is a man." and changed the pronouns used for Kris back to "he".

These changes should be reverted and protection added for this section. Tallbutshy (talk) 11:15, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

has been reverted --FMSky (talk) 11:24, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

Putting common nicknames of first name in infobox.

I have, a couple of times, removed "Jimmy Donaldson" from the "Other names" section of the infobox, but it has been reverted every time. I do not believe it should be listed in the infobox. His full name is already listed under "birth_name", and "Jimmy" is a very common nickname for "James".

We don't list these nicknames in the first sentence due to MOS:NICKNAME. We also don't see these nicknames placed in the infobox for anybody else. See any other article for people with nicknames of their first name, and they are never listed in the infobox. See Bill Clinton (commonly known as "Bill", nickname of "William"), jacksfilms (commonly known as "Jack", nickname of "John"), Nihachu (commonly known as "Niki", nickname of "Nikita"), TimTheTatman (commonly known as "Tim", nickname of "Timothy"), Wilbur Soot (commonly known as "Will", nickname of "William"), Technoblade (commonly known as "Alex", nickname of "Alexander"), Bill Gates (commonly known as "Bill", nickname of "William"), Dave Bautista (commonly known as "Dave", nickname of "David"), TommyInnit (commonly known as "Tom" or "Tommy", nickname of "Thomas"), Valkyrae (commonly known as "Rae", nickname of "Rachell"), Danny Gonzalez (commonly known as "Danny", nickname of "Daniel"), and many others.

This is why I do not believe we should list "Jimmy Donaldson" in MrBeast's infobox.

Thoughts? Strugglehouse (talk) 13:20, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

it should be left in because its a very common name of his while no one knows him as James Stephen Donaldson. that name wasnt even confirmed until a short time ago --FMSky (talk) 13:26, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
Yes, it's a common name of his, but your reply ignores my main point. Wikipedia doesn't list these nicknames in infoboxes. Please look at all the examples I gave. Strugglehouse (talk) 13:30, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
in that case we should probably WP:IGNOREALLRULES --FMSky (talk) 13:32, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
I don't think we should ignore the rule. I really don't think leaving "Jimmy" out of the infobox is actively decreasing the quality of the article, or preventing anyone from improving the article.
Maybe we should wait for consensus from other editors. Strugglehouse (talk) 13:43, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
I agree with this application of the MOS as it is now. Whether or not that should change is a matter of debate for another talk page. I don't think Jimmy Donaldson's nickname is special enough to WP:IAR. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 15:53, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Discussion died down so I am pinging the five editors before my removal of "Jimmy" from the infobox. @Waterard, @78-Yellowcat, @MrNoobNub2, @Quilxzyedits, @ClaveScottPH, @Jonny Nixon Strugglehouse (talk) 16:48, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
I don't have any idea about this.
78-YellowcatTalk 11:32, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
@78-Yellowcat me neither, I have no idea about this discussion. No comment on any of this. MrNoobNub2 (talk) 09:58, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
Hello, I just changed the website that I believed would make more sense. I have nothing to do with this discussion. No comment. Waterard water?(talk | contribs) 07:59, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 July 2023

May i please edit this article there is something wrong with it Mrbeast50002 (talk) 03:24, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. PlanetJuice (talkcontribs) 03:25, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
He is trying to ask if he can edit this article, which is semi-protected. But it would probably be better if you can discuss the changes and I could help. Waterard water?(talk | contribs) 08:02, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Night Investment and Media Companies

There is little to no mention of Night Investments or Night Media as the parent companies for his investment and media activities. While it is clearly cited at least once. I would think the names of his business entities would be of interest to the reader. It would be valuable information for entrepreneurs and investors as well? DaxSudo (talk) 00:28, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

"donation videos that reward thousands of dollars"

The above extract doesn't make sense.

How do videos reward, i.e. give a reward to, dollars? How do dollars receive a reward?

Wikipedia illiteracy strikes yet again. 2A00:23EE:14F0:15B2:F59A:96AE:22BB:7804 (talk) 19:36, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

This is just one ambiguous quirk of English grammar, not really "illiteracy". Your interpretation reads it as "He rewards thousands of dollars (with some prize)", as if MrBeast gave a prize to some entity named 'thousands of dollars'. But by context, most readers would read it as "He rewards thousands of dollars (to someone)". Both examples are grammatically correct sentences, it's just the ellipsis that makes it ambiguous.
Anyway, the sentence felt a bit congested with the numerous examples, so I rewrote and generalized it to "His videos, typically involving challenges and giveaways, became increasingly grandeur and extravagant." Endoftalk 20:41, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

A navbox for MrBeast

Since MrBeast huge popularity, we had got many articles related to MrBeast such as Feastables and the Squid Game video. I think it kinda make sense that MrBeast should had it own navbox. NatwonTSG2 (talk) 16:33, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 August 2023

It is unnecessary, and possibly harmful, to state Kris Tyson's birth/dead name. It is irrelevant to the content of the paragraph, and invalidating of Kris' chosen name. RunRynRun (talk) 00:53, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

See WP:DEADNAME, Taylor was notable before the gender transition, so the name should say. Its also necessary to provide context --FMSky (talk) 06:04, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 August 2023

"That same year, Time magazine named him as one of the world's 100 most influential people" -> "In 2023, Time magazine named him as one of the world's 100 most influential people."

It is not clear which year Time magazine named him in their 100 list. 2600:6C44:117F:95BE:9C83:4AA4:C331:C4E6 (talk) 22:38, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

 Done Cannolis (talk) 23:19, 25 August 2023 (UTC)