Talk:Muscatine, Iowa

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MuscaBus was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 17 July 2023 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Muscatine, Iowa. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

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Welcome to the Muscatine Discussion page. I am Kopf1988. If you need any information about Muscatine, post here, and I may periodically provide such information.

Kopf1988 04:25, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Musical[edit]

In ten years... will the musical still be appropriate to be in the article? If no... should it be here now? Kopf1988 05:21, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No...and no...that's why it's not anymore. Nyttend 22:04, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Underground railway[edit]

My late mother Florence Athony(Johnson) family tghe Anthonys immigated to Muscatine Iowa in 1820 They had a Underground railway station ! Good Friends,QuckersAndreisme (talk) 23:17, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Environmental problems section[edit]

The Environmental concerns section has been edited by User: KentWW to put a considerable gloss on a poor environmental history in the town. This edit is a SPA with on,ly 4 edits, all to this article. In the additional material added is included the sentence "Gage Kent, CEO at Kent Corporation, parent to Grain Processing Corporation commented that Muscatine is his home and the home for executives, employees and their families". The similarity between the name of the CEO and this user's name and the spin put on the environmental record, gives very good ground for assuming a conflict of interest. Velella ^{Velella Talk} 20:26, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the KentWW edit should have been removed. I live in Muscatine. I don't live in the south end of Muscatine, but I do work in the south end. The "environmental problems" section of this page needs to be updated to reflect what has transpired over the last 8 years since 2015. It's been years since I edited a wiki article, so I'll have to re-train myself, but I would propose the following two sentences to cover the last 8 years:

"In July 2015 the company agreed to new, more stringent, air emissions permits with the Iowa Department of Natural Resources and federal regulators. The company moved from coal to natural gas as their fuel source and built a new animal feed dryer to meet these new permit requirements. [cite https://web.archive.org/web/20160622124451/http://muscatinejournal.com/news/local/muscatine/muscatine-businesses-dnr-develop-pollution-reduction-plan/article_5ef09f4a-e955-5e11-abc7-132e6a9eb423.html and https://web.archive.org/web/20170510071214/http://muscatinejournal.com/news/local/gpc-s-conversion-to-natural-gas-is-complete/article_93e6adcb-2859-5c88-aeb3-ced4de7b8c49.html]"

I want to quantify the new permits that GPC had to agree to, but the Iowa DNR website uses javascript to view air permits, so it doesn't give a useful URL link. I'm trying to answer the 'how much more stringent?' question. The lower emissions are refenced in the 2nd cited news article. Are those numbers acceptable to copy here with citation? The Center for Public Integrity cited webpage also links to the reduction numbers stated by GPC in a different press release. Between that and the news article, I think that meets Wikipedia's sourcing requirements. The Center for Public Integrity citation addresses the fine that GPC paid for violating yearly operating limits, so I should be able to remove that 'citation needed' tag while I'm at it. Maxpower2911 (talk) 13:17, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I added this change, with one more sentence to describe the pollution reduction. I agree that linking to the IDNR website doesn't do much good wrt sourcing. Gravel for breakfast (talk) 17:57, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It took a little digging, but I think I summarized the years 2014-2022 in a WP:NPOV with governmental sourcing.

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Parade incident[edit]

I thought about adding a section for the 2023 parade incident. I came to the conclusion that it wouldn't be notable 5 years from now. I see @Kristincedar added a section for this today. I could be convinced both ways on this, but I lean towards this being relevant news this week, but not relevant info about Muscatine 5 years from now. I guess my vote would be to revert, or make the section a lot shorter. Maybe revisit in a couple months and see how people feel about it? Gravel for breakfast (talk) 15:44, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think we have enough time behind us to review the parade incident using WP:EVENT. The inclusion criteria are:

1. An event that is a precedent or catalyst for something else of lasting significance is likely to be notable. Answer: No

2. Notable events usually have significant impact over a wide region, domain, or widespread societal group. Answer: No

3. An event must receive significant or in-depth coverage to be notable. Answer: No, it received blurb level coverage and a couple quotes.

4. Notable events usually receive coverage beyond a relatively short news cycle. Answer: Short news cycle.

5. Significant national or international coverage is usually expected for an event to be notable. Wide-ranging reporting tends to show significance, but sources that simply mirror or tend to follow other sources, or are under common control with other sources, are usually discounted. Answer: Almost all the news sources copied 2 local news station reports.

I've came to the conclusion that this event is not notable and I'm going to remove it. Gravel for breakfast (talk) 13:43, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]