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registration[edit]

the registration process has changed, recently. in 2015 i got the membership card right away at the counter of any participating museum. but this year (in 2016) i just got a preliminary ID and was requested to register online to have the card sent to my postal address. however, the registration form only accepts a postal address in the netherlands. so how do i register with a residential address outside the netherlands? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.216.76.20 (talk) 20:45, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

it's only possible with a Dutch address. So living outside the Netherlands you actually have to pay 12 times the price in order to get the same value. If you've already bought a card and you can't register it because living abroad, you should complain here http://www.eccnederland.nl/en/submit-complaints/can-ecc-handle-your-complaint. You first have to send a complain here nevertheless https://www.museumkaart.nl/Contact. --91.57.17.69 (talk) 17:52, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 26 June 2021[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus. Will create a redirect at Museum card (Netherlands). No such user (talk) 11:26, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Museumkaart → Museum card (Netherlands) – My previous proposal to move Museum card (Finland) to Museokortti was rejected, so for consistency's sake, let's do this the other way around. Neither of the cards is literally called "Museum card" in the local language, but the local names translate to it. Museum card is already a disambiguation page so it makes sense for the article names to be consistent. JIP | Talk 01:18, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment While I believe the correct literal translation is "Museum card", the official website uses "Museum Pass". [1] The article also does not list sources other than this website. Are there independent, English-language sources that use the term "Museum card"? 162 etc. (talk) 14:45, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- If the official English term is "Museum pass" and not "Museum card", then this article could be moved to Museum pass instead, leaving Museum card for the Finnish card. Anyway, the current situation where one card uses the native name and the other one doesn't is unacceptable. JIP | Talk 23:01, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - Both names are far too generic. There are plenty of cards by this name around the world. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:47, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I see no need to change from the name in the original language. It's not as though the Dutch name isn't used in English-language sources, as a quick Google search will attest. Personally, I think the Finnish one should have been moved too. One !vote is hardly a consensus. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:47, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Then if this proposal fails too, should I have another go at the previous proposal? It's just stupid to leave this at an inconsistent state where one article uses the native name and the other doesn't. JIP | Talk 19:53, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - I tend to agree, although I would note that some languages (e.g. Dutch) are more familiar to native English speakers than others (e.g. Finnish). If it was solely my decision, I'd leave most foreign-language terms at their native names unless they're overwhelmingly known in English-language sources by an English translation, but sadly it's not, and it's unfortunately true that many other native English speakers (and, bizarrely, on Wikipedia many non-native English speakers too) are uncomfortable with foreign-language terms and like to translate everything. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:50, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'll clarify that leaving such names untranslated goes against WP:UE, which is a Wikipedia policy. 162 etc. (talk) 15:10, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it doesn't. UE certainly does not mandate translation of all foreign names, although it is frequently misinterpreted as doing so. Unfortunately, this has led to some bizarre article titles as non-native English speakers attempt to translate names into literal rather than intuitive English (which I have especially noticed in names of buildings in Eastern Europe). But, as I clearly said, the above is my opinion. As a native English speaker myself, it mystifies me why so many people are unhappy about leaving names in the original language. Just as it mystifies me why so many people seem to prefer dubbing to subtitles. But there you go... -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:24, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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