Talk:Music of Albania

Music of Albania was one of the Music good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
September 29, 2005	Good article nominee	Listed
September 14, 2007	Good article reassessment	Delisted

Current status: Delisted good article

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Comment[edit]

TUF-KAT, I am not sure I understand what a sharki is. I have never heard it in this form (is it an Albanian word?). Dori 03:30, Nov 19, 2003 (UTC)

Also, shouldn't the article be under Albanian music since it includes (and will probably include more) music from Albanians from other countries? Dori 03:36, Nov 19, 2003 (UTC)

According to my source (the one in the references section at the bottom of the page), the sharki is "big brother" to the çifteli, which it describes as a "deceptively simple two-stringed instrument related to the Turkish saz". I can't be of much more help than that, but it certainly seems to be an Albanian word. Strangely, googling turns up lots of music-related articles concerning Morocco, Malaysia, India and the UK, but I don't see anything Albanian -- possibly it's not the most common transliteration.

I think it's the same thing as a çifteli [1] [2]. Dori 18:23, Nov 19, 2003 (UTC)

Most of the subpages of country articles are at Music of XXX, for various reasons, and I think it is important to be consistent in this. Some countries don't have a commonly-understood adjectival form (Nigerien music would be difficult to find for many) and others just sound awkward (Marshall Islander music is technically correct, but strange to the ear). While I agree that Music of Albania might imply that it is only about Albanians living in Albania, I think this is only an implication that will not startle people -- for example, people often refer to salsa (invented by Cuban-Americans) as part of the music of Cuba, while Albanian music much more strongly implies an ethnic component and excludes, for example, Greeks living in Albania and may also indicate a language component. Some of this has been discussed at Talk:Art and architecture of Japan. I know many of these arguments don't particularly apply to Albania, since it is more or less monocultural, but it is important for consistency's sake.Tuf-Kat 04:11, Nov 19, 2003 (UTC)

Why I reverted[edit]

The general policy is spelled out at Wikipedia:WikiProject World music. Music of Cuba, Music of Brazil, Music of Ireland, Music of India, Music of Jamaica, Music of Mexico, Music of Japan and even stubbly little Music of El Salvador and music of Turks and Caicos Islands all include info on music abroad, IIRC. Part of the study of the "music of Albania" is the study of Albanian music from outside of Albania. WRT the picture specifically, I would support its removal if it could be replaced by a better one. Tuf-Kat 18:15, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC)

Two unmatched footnotes[edit]

Shehu spent much of his life in prison for his religious beliefs, but managed to compose melodramas like The Siege of Shkodër, The Red Scarf and Rozafa, which helped launch the field of Albanian opera (note was here)

and

Styles of epics include këngë trimash (songs of bravery), këngë kreshnikësh, ballads and maje krahi (cries)(note was here)

Found in the course of Cite.php conversion and replaced them with {{fact}} tags. Circeus 16:21, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GA under review[edit]

This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force/Sweeps. I question the quality of this article based on the Good article criteria. For that reason, I have listed the article at Good article review. Issues needing to be address are listed there. Regards, T Rex | talk 23:41, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The result of the review was to Delist. An archive of the discussion can be found here. Drewcifer 06:23, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Albanian music[edit]

It could be better if this page is called Albanian music? —Anna Comnena (talk) 09:32, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bias[edit]

Does this not seem like a bias? "Its only fair to admit that their success was never recognised internationally, but that does not take away anything from their greatness. " Anonymous

I agree; the whole paragraph reads like a fan-page: "The best voices of contemporary Albanian music are those of Vaçe Zela and Nexhmije Pagarusha. The first one had a successful career in Tirana and the second one in Pristina. Its only fair to admit that their success was never recognised internationally, but that does not take away anything from their greatness. The Albanian music has never had the chance to get a worldwide publicity such as the one that would come from a successful movie or other event of international interest. It is really like an unexplored treasure of antiquity, that is waiting to be discovered." 84.198.246.199 (talk) 16:59, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I deleted the editorial opinions and left the names. Kenji Yamada (talk) 04:08, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a link about the albanian iso polyphonic music which some greek editors like to name music from epirus[edit]

http://www.unesco.org/culture/ich/en/RL/00155 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.132.75.124 (talk) 12:38, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Representation[edit]

I'm sorry, but is this article a fair representation or some individual's personal bias? Including a picture Fan Noli is completely inappropriate in proportion to contributions to Albanian Music, maybe include him in the literature article. You should have either Prenk Jakova, and more spoke about him in the article, and/or the pioneer of Albanian classical music, Martin Gjoka, who spawned all the great Albanian classical and folk composers of the 20th century. That would make much more sense. 142.126.212.22 (talk) 19:52, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]