Talk:Négritude

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Banjamin Rush[edit]

Wondering about the correctness of the following passage:

"The term "Negritude," a common 19th century term, referring to "blackness," was also used by American Benjamin Rush, a signer of the Declaration of Independence and early abolitionist, to describe a hypothetical hereditary disease which he believed to be the cause of "blackness". [1]"

It was my impression that the Negritude poets coined the term. I could be wrong about this of course. Perhaps the word was in effect coined twice, without the poets having knowledge of Rush's usage? Anyone know?

I thought it would be important to mention Dama's and Senghor's first anthologies as pivotal for the movement. What do you think? Afppanda (talk) 05:03, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No, I do not know, although I was always told the same as you. This article is however laden with historical errors and fallacies, obviously written by a non-francophone (worse yet, non-african, even perhaps un-african) whose understanding of this concept and its origins is very limited and erroneous indeed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.72.93.5 (talk) 21:44, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The term "Negritude," a common 19th century term, referring to "blackness," was also used by American Benjamin Rush, a signer of the Declaration of Independence and early abolitionist, to describe a hypothetical hereditary disease which he believed to be the cause of "blackness". Perhaps the word was in effect coined twice, without the poets having knowledge of Rush's usage? Anyone know?

I know the answer, but I can't tell you, as by the terms of service of Wikipedia, one is not permitted to post any original thought nor any original research. I suppose you will be able to freely quote it though, once I author it and publish it. see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research Bigjoe5216 (talk) 22:32, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to Brian J. Reilly (in the secondary references), Rush does not use the term in the source usually cited. It is a misreading of a secondary source. Basically people cite Rush without having read Rush based on reading others who did too. If a Rush quotation can be found that does use the term, please add it.

There is now a New York Times article "Psychiatry Confronts Its Racist Past, and Tries to Make Amends" by Judith Warner with the following correction: "A correction was made on May 21, 2021: An earlier version of this article, relying on historical research published by the American Psychiatric Association and other sources, contained the erroneous claim that Dr. Benjamin Rush believed that black skin was the result of a form of leprosy he called "negritude." While Dr. Rush did write that "the color and figure of that part of our fellow creatures who are known by the epithet of negroes, are derived from a modification of that disease, which is known by the name of Leprosy,” there is no evidence that he termed that condition "negritude."" So is there evidence or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.108.120.64 (talk) 18:42, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Addition to Influences Section[edit]

Added some people to this section that I think were vital to the progression of Négritude as a concept. Jennareisler (talk) 22:11, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Potential Addition to influences section: I am incredibly surprised to not find Paulette Nardal listed as an influencer. She hosted the three main founders of the negritude movement in her salon called the Clamart salon and had a paper called La Revue du Monde Noir which influenced Anime, Leopold, and Leon to start their own paper in the 1930's. Nardals sisters also had writings about "black internationalism" which was one of the earliest terms for the Pan-African diaspora or Pan-Africanism. She was also from Martinique which is where Anime was from, there may be further connection. Someone who is more qualified should add this to the page, without her many of the writings may not have happened. ( 10 Dec, 2019). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:A060:B830:E881:D39C:DEA0:3219 (talk) 05:31, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The use of "Blacks"[edit]

Using "blacks" is dehumanizing, a capitalization of Black and references to "Black individuals" or "Black people" is preferred. Lohizm (talk) 21:38, 2 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Expanding Credit for the Nardal Sisters[edit]

Hey! This is a part of a school project for me -- I've never edited on Wikipedia before, so if there are any changes you all think should be made to my contribution, please make them. The information added is correct and important, but I'm unfamiliar with any nuances to the language and formatting of Wikipedia edits.

I added a paragraph to the development section in which I expand discussion upon the Nardal sisters. The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy has an important section dedicated to explaining that the impact of black women upon Négritude has been historically minimized by a masculinist genealogy. I agree completely -- the impact of women upon nearly every movement in history has been minimized, and that's especially true when it comes to the impact of black women. This is an example of an effort that we can make to right previous wrongs -- we can make the fact that the Nardal sisters are of significant importance to Négritude part of the most publicly consumed information regarding the movement.

Mandoughman (talk) 21:57, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Youssoupha Clarification Needed[edit]

"The word is also used by the rapper Youssoupha in his eponymous album "Négritude" but also before this one."

What does this mean? The album would be "eponymous" if it were titled Youssoupha. And what is the antecedent of "this one"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7000:3902:B10A:D95F:5CC9:7AD9:6BBB (talk) 18:08, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]