Talk:NASA Astronaut Group 7/GA1

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 11:02, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Comments

  • Lead is light for an article of this length.
  • Question? What else should it say? Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:04, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Project Apollo is overlinked in the lead.
    checkY Unlinked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The United States Air Force (USAF) " you already abbreviated this in the lead.
    The article and the lead should be able to stand separately. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Same with NASA.
    The article and the lead should be able to stand separately. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Cold War is overlinked.
    checkY Unlinked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Link delta wing.
    checkY Linked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • " the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). NASA's" NASA. NASA is repetitive.
    checkY Substituted pronoun. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "$53.8 million" inflate.
    checkY Inflated. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "On 1961 the" in.
    checkY Typo. Corrected. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Secretary of Defense" doesn't like to the US variant, just generic.
    checkY redirected. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • " the Manned Orbiting Laboratory (MOL). " already abbreviated in the lead.
    The article and the lead should be able to stand separately. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • cancelled - isn't it one L for USEng?
    checkY Yes. Corrected. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "astronauts for the X-15, " what's an X-15?
    checkY added "rocket-powered aircraft"
  • "on San Antonio, Texas," in.
    checkY Typo. Corrected. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • ". Left to Right: " Left to right:, and end it with a full stop. Apply to all.
    checkY Applied. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • " School (ARPS)on " space.
    checkY Spaced out. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "to ATPS graduates" what's ATPS?
    checkY Typo. Should be "ARPS". Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "NASA astronauts groups", or "NASA astronaut groups"?
    checkY Dropped the "s". Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • MOL Program or MOL program?
    checkY Lower-cased. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • " for was MOL astronauts was" too many was.
    checkY Deleted. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • What's USN?
    checkY Linked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • What's USMC?
    checkY Linked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "of these, who were" no need for a comma.
    Conjunctive comma, Retained. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Five were selected.The names" space, but merge anyway. "Five were selected and their names..."
    checkY Spaced out. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • These bullet lists don't need the semi-colons and the "and" at all.
    checkY Removed. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "had blown out significantly" not encyclopedic tone.
    checkY "increased". Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "costed at $1.5 billion, the cost" cost cost repeat.
    checkY Re-worded. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "budget. Budget" repetitive.
    checkY Re-worded. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The axe finally fell " colloquial. And would be ax.
    checkY Reworded. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • cancelled - one L again.
    checkY Corrected. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "They flew to Houston" including Herres?
    Apparently. He would not have been selected, since he was born in 1932, and therefore 36 years old. Wound up becoming a four-star general. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • " Deke Slayton. Slayton" Slayton Slayton repeat.
    checkY Changed to "he". Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Mueller NASA's Deputy" comma before NASA.
    checkY Yes. Added. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "although not as an astronaut" what as then?
    checkY As a test pilot. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • You have birth place but not death place?
    Question? Do you think death places are interesting enough to add? Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I see you have col scopes, good. Row scopes could be applied to the astronaut names. That'd be perfect.
    Question? I've tried to add this, but I'm not sure what the effect is. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "ref" should be "Refs."
    checkY Changed. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • " bachelor of science " vs " Master of Science " capitalisation, check throughout.
    checkY settled on capitalised. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "to flown" have.
    Linked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Link US Navy.
    Linked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Career notes use "he" extensively. Could mix it up with some surname references.
    checkY Mixed. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • In a sortable table, it's conventional to link everything that's linked on every instance as it's unclear, post-resorting, which instance will come first.
    checkY Linked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • DC, was D.C. above.
    checkY Corrected. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Overmyer retirement year?
    "In May 1986, he retired from both NASA and the Marine Corps, with the rank of colonel." Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why is mechanical engineering worthy of linking?
    checkY Unlinked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "of Space Shuttle program" the?
    checkY Added. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "it was going to be a long wait ..." too narrative.
    checkY Re-worded. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • " The first rung on the ladder " not eneyclopedic in tone.
    checkY Re-worded. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "support crew" is mentioned five times in three sentences. Mix it up a little without losing the meaning.
    checkY Re-worded. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • " NASA Astronaut Group 5 " overlinked.
    checkY Unlinked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:04, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Ironically" too narrative.
  • checkY Changed. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "pp. 101-102." en-dash, check all others.
    checkY Ran the script over it. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Several refs have NASA as author, I think it more likely that they're the publisher of the information.
    checkY Corrected. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's my lot for a first pass. I'll put it on hold while we get these addressed. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 13:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your first pass on my comments. I'll hopefully have time to review them tomorrow. The overwhelming issue is the lead is too short. Cover each of the sections with a couple of sentences and you'll be there. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 22:14, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This is fine now. A really nice piece of work, so I'm promoting. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 14:29, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.