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A fact from Nana Nuriana appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 2 February 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that when West Java governor Nana Nuriana ran for reelection in 1998, he faced fifteen challengers?

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The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 17:17, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that before joining the Indonesian Military Academy, Nana Nuriana studied geology? Source: Ensiklopedi Sunda: alam, manusia, dan budaya, termasuk budaya Cirebon dan Betawi, p444
- ALT1: ... that when West Java governor Nana Nuriana ran for reelection in 1998, he faced fifteen competitors? Source: Politik Mantan Serdadu: Purnawirawan dalam Politik Indonesia, 1998–2014, p220
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Macromia alleghaniensis
- Comment: -

Created by Juxlos (talk). Self-nominated at 07:32, 31 December 2022 (UTC).[reply]

I'll review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:05, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Pretty much meets the requirements, but I see one issue: the ALT1 hook states that when West Java governor Nana Nuriana ran for reelection in 1998, he faced sixteen competitors while I read in the article his candidacy was challenged with seventeen gubernatorial candidates running for the office – was it sixteen or seventeen? Also, I'll AGF on the sources, both of which I am unable to read. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:16, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Seventeen participants including himself, or sixteen competititors against him. Juxlos (talk) 01:48, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I see. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:07, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Another editor brought up something regarding ALT1, so I decided to cross it out just to be safe. Juxlos (talk) 13:54, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Juxlos and BeanieFan11: Might be just an opinion, but I am not seeing what is interesting about the hook. Bruxton (talk) 18:34, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Bruxton: maybe ALT2: ... that Banten seceded from West Java despite the latter's governor Nana Nuriana's opposition? Juxlos (talk) 05:21, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Needs a more interesting hook I think. ALT2 is clumsy IMO. Bruxton (talk) 16:32, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What was the issue with ALT1? BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:05, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BeanieFan11: Well, not much exactly. Another user pointed out it was 16 total not 16+1. Unstruck. Also @Bruxton:. Juxlos (talk) 16:28, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I will promote ALT1 Bruxton (talk) 17:16, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"seventeen gubernatorial candidates"[edit]

Juxlos: Apparently, the statement from book cited for this statement is a bit misleading. The 16 candidates that were mentioned in the book was actually to-be candidates (bakal calon) instead of candidates (calon). I've searched for some Kompas sources that I've saved regarding the gubernatorial election and here's what they say about the gubernatorial election process:

DPRD Jawa Barat Kamis (5/2) sore mengakhiri masa penjaringan usulan bakal calon gubernur periode 1998-2003 dengan total usulan yang masuk 16 nama dari 79 aspirasi. Hari terakhir penjaringan diwarnai kejutan dengan masuknya usulan resmi untuk Mayjen TNI Agum Gumelar (Pangdam VII Wirabuana). Dari 16 calon yang terdaftar, terdapat delapan tokoh dari keluarga besar ABRI (KBA). Empat di antaranya masih menyandang pangkat jenderal aktif, yakni Mayjen TNI Adang Ruchiatna, Mayjen TNI Tayo Tarmadi, Mayjen TNI Rustandi dan Mayjen TNI Agum Gumelar. Sedang empat lainnya sudah purnawirawan, yakni R Nuriana (gubernur Jabar sekarang), Rosadi Brataadmadja, Soedradjat Nataatmadja serta HMA Sampurna. Sementara delapan calon dari sipil masing-masing Prof Ir Wiranto Arismunandar, Prof Dr Yuyun Wirasasmita, Rachmat Witoelar, Ir Soenoto, Momon Gandasasmita, Tatang Suhendar, Dr Diharna, serta Udin Koswara.
— DPRD Jaring 16 Nama Bakal Calon Gubernur Jabar, Kompas, 7 February 1998

I couldn't find more information about the names of the candidates that were able to pass through the selection process, but according to the law regarding gubernatorial elections at that time, there could be at most only 5 candidates in the gubernatorial elections. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 13:17, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]