Talk:Neighborhoods of Beersheba

How came?

How come "This article needs additional citations for verification"?

If one wants to verify the existence of a neighborhood, he or she can look it up in Google Maps. Eddau (talk) 19:09, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Most of the facts in the article are unsourced, so the tag is valid. —Ynhockey ^(Talk) 02:17, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

What facts for instance?Eddau (talk) 06:22, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Just from the first section:

The Old City (Hebrew: עיר העתיקה‎, Ir HaAtika) is the historical centre of Beersheba. Based on the core of the old Ottoman town, it was expanded by the British during the Mandate era. Street signs in English from the Mandate era are still visible on many street corners.

Laid out in a grid pattern, it consists mostly of one and two storey stone buildings, although some taller buildings were recently built. Scant efforts have been made to gentrify the Old City, but much work remains to be done. The old Turkish buildings dating back about 100 years are mostly in a state of neglect although some valuable exceptions can be found where private individuals or organisations have renovated them to their previous glory.

Until the late 1990s, the Old City was the commercial hub of Beersheba. But since the opening of the large Kanyon HaNegev (Hebrew: קניון הנגב‎, lit. Negev Mall) mall near the Central Bus Station (and a number of smaller neighborhood-malls) many of the leading chain stores have moved out. There are some sites of historical interest in the Old City: Abraham's Well, the Negev Art Museum, Allenby Garden, the Turkish Train Station, the British War Cemetery and the Aljama Mosque.

(I just copied the entire section).

This isn't Hebrew Wikipedia. Each fact requires a source. —Ynhockey ^(Talk) 14:11, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

P.S. It is permissible to cite maps, by the way, if relevant. —Ynhockey ^(Talk) 14:21, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Nobody argues about the bad quality of the only section you cited. In fact, I added some "citation needed" remarks there on my own. (And if such a section will find its way to Hebrew Wikipedia, most of it would be erased instantly). However, this section has its own sign of bed quality.

If you want me to fix anything on the rest of the article, you will have to reveal your secret and tell me what is wrong with it. (Unless you really want me to prove every trivial and obvious fact, i.g. the existence of Beersheva, the fact that towns do include neighborhoods, and that "Alef" really means "A")Eddau (talk) 19:09, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

As I said before, the English Wikipedia requires that every trivial or non-trivial, disputed and non-disputed, fact is cited. This is one of the core policies of Wikipedia. Direct translations may be left uncited, but as I demonstrated above, most facts are currently not cited. For example, Street signs in English from the Mandate era are still visible on many street corners. Really? I didn't know. Does it say this in any source? If not, it should be removed from the article (eventually).

The main difference between disputed and non-disputed information isn't whether to cite or not, but it's whether to remove or not—if it's disputed, there is justification to remove until a source is found. If it's not disputed (as in this case), it should be left with a tag until a source is found. Still the source needs to be found.

Personally, I'd especially like to see a source discussing the Negev Mall's influence on the city, because what's stated in the article doesn't strike me as entirely correct.

—Ynhockey ^(Talk) 22:34, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Merging Nahal Beka into this article

Nahal Beka is a short article and what is written there is still too much. gidonb (talk) 23:11, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

  Y Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 23:27, 29 December 2021 (UTC)