Talk:Netherlands Antilles at the 2008 Summer Olympics

Netherlands Antilles at the 2008 Summer Olympics has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.

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Date	Process	Result
November 27, 2011	Good article nominee	Listed

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Dutch Antillean sprinter Churandy Martina would have won silver at the 2008 Summer Olympics if he had not been disqualified?

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GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Netherlands Antilles at the 2008 Summer Olympics/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: LauraHale (talk · contribs) 02:56, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Stating criteria for reference: A good article is—

Well-written:

(a) the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct; and

(b) it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.

Verifiable with no original research:

(a) it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline;

(b) reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose); and

(c) it contains no original research.

Broad in its coverage:

(a) it addresses the main aspects of the topic; and

(b) it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).

Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:

(a) media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content; and

(b) media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.

Well written[edit]

I removed a citation out of the lead, put it in the body. (This move was imperfect. The text could be better integrated.) This now makes the lead summary style. --LauraHale (talk) 03:15, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Appears to follow the manual of style, avoids weasel words, incorporates tables in a correct way, has few grammatical errors and no spelling errors that I noticed. Is it the best written text ever? No, but appears adequate for GA. I would improve before taking it further. A peer review may given an idea as how to improve. Wording in the article makes sense to me. --LauraHale (talk) 03:15, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Factually accurate and verifiable[edit]

Plagiarism Check: [1][2][3][4][5][6] Not seeing anything that gives me cause to be concerned. --LauraHale (talk) 03:23, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Citations are inline and formatted correctly and consistently. -LauraHale (talk) 03:23, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sources support text of article. Did some small modifications of article to make this more clear.--LauraHale (talk) 03:33, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Broad in its coverage[edit]

Covers most topics adequately given the available scope, how many medals the nation didn't win, etc. It would be nice to have a a link to Netherlands Antilles at the Summer Olympics or Netherlands Antilles at the Olympics in background section or have additional information about the impact of the nation no longer competing independently on the Olympic movement in the country. On the other hand, this doesn't necessarily fit in the article as it is more aftermath of the games… Given that, giving this criteria a pass. --LauraHale (talk) 03:15, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral[edit]

Article appears neutral, and does not appear to give WP:DUE to any section. Does not appear to be bias in the coverage either negative or positive regarding the nation's performance at the games. --LauraHale (talk) 02:56, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Stable[edit]

Stable. No ongoing edit wars. --LauraHale (talk) 02:56, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Illustrated, if possible, by images[edit]

I removed the pictograms. They don't work with screen readers. :/ If it could be confirmed that pictures were sought for this article and none were found, this section will be given a pass. --LauraHale (talk) 02:56, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The other two athletes and the NOC don't have available pictures, to my knowledge. I could add a picture of sprinter Churandy Martina, but it would be from his performance in games other than the 2008 Summer Olympics. Would that be appropriate? --Starstriker7^(Talk) 04:02, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That would be a nice addition, even if it wasn't from the games. As he's one of the major competitors for the nation, it wouldn't seem completely out of place. Description could read something like "2008 Netherland Antilles Olympian NAME competing at UNRELATED EVENT." That way, it makes sense given the picture not being from the Games. :) --LauraHale (talk) 05:10, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Overall[edit]

To pass, I would like confirmation of no images. I would also like to know if additional research has been done on the impact of the IOC decision for the nation in response to this being their last games. The latter isn't a requirement, but rather a nice to have as it would make the article more comprehensive. --LauraHale (talk) 03:15, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've confirmed. As for the additional research, it doesn't seem to be a particularly big deal in the former Netherlands Antilles or in the IOC; I could only find one reference from the IOC, and nothing at all from local English and Papiamento papers. I think it will garner more attention in the coming 2012 London games. --Starstriker7^(Talk) 04:22, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not that surprised regarding the sources. :) Just wanted to confirm the research was done for the article, even if the results were "Nothing here." (I do Paralympians so have a great sympathy for "No information exists.") As we get closer, it might be worth remembering that and updating this article with some information… but for now, perfectly adequate. :) --LauraHale (talk) 05:12, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]