Talk:New Jersey Route 18/GA1

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GA Reassessment[edit]

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  • Much of the construction history is cited to one source, a SPS.
  • The paragraphs are huge.
  • Not part of the GA standard, but there are >10 interchanges in the infobox.
    • There are ten interchanges in the infobox. TCN7JM 22:36, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I will leave this open for a week before demoting. --Rschen7754 22:32, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The community is wasting its time, given I wrote it over five years ago and I have other on-wiki commitments to care about, just go ahead and demote it. This process isn't even worth it. Mitch32(It is very likely this guy doesn't have a girlfriend.) 23:54, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I will attempt to fix the article within the week. Dough4872 23:55, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Fixes made. Dough4872 21:15, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A few comments by TCN7JM[edit]

  • Most of the paragraphs in the RD begin with "Route 18".
  • There's some awkward text placement below the southern terminus picture on my screen.
  • Removed extra image to avoid cramming. Dough4872 23:40, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • The last note in the RJL uses a comma to separate instead of a semicolon. I'm not saying semicolons are better, but consistency is.

That's all I have to say regarding general layout and stuff. TCN7JM 22:07, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, now that the basic stuff is done, I think I'll start with an actual review in a little while. TCN7JM 23:42, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm actually still getting a text placement error with "(Wayside Road)[2]." below the very first picture, try splitting the paragraphs in a different manner or something? TCN7JM 23:44, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Dough4872 23:54, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, now for some comments:

  1. "40.16 miles long" should be formatted as "40.16-mile-long". I'm pretty sure you know how to do this with the template.
    Fixed. Dough4872 01:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  2. "At that point, Route 18 designated onto the alignment." You're missing a word there.
    Added word. Dough4872 01:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  3. You should mention in the lead when it was that the route was extended north to CR 622.
    Added. Dough4872 01:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  4. The second paragraph of the lead as a whole uses too much "current" stuff. You should fix some wording here.
    Changed some wording. Dough4872 01:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  5. The last sentence of the lead breaks the flow of time. It goes from the '50s in the first paragraph to 2004 and the present in the second, then just jumps back to the '80s.
    Reordered into chronological order. Dough4872 01:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  6. You say the route passes under "Route 138 as a four-lane freeway". Is Route 138 the four-lane freeway or is Route 18?
    Reworded to make clearer. Dough4872 01:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  7. You use "crosses under" twice in the same sentence once.
    Removed duplicate wording. Dough4872 01:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  8. "The route continues through Glendola, and Brighton Avenue (southbound Interchanges 7A and 7B),." This whole sentence is just messed up. It makes no sense grammatically and you have two punctuation marks at the end.
    Fixed sentence. Dough4872 01:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  9. "and interchanges with Route 33, and County Route 17 at exit 8." I don't think there needs to be a comma there.
    Removed comma. 01:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
  10. heaing → heading
    Fixed. Dough4872 01:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  11. The last sentence of the first paragraph needs to be reworded. It makes no sense grammatically.
    Reworded. Dough4872 01:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  12. In the second paragraph, how can a massive interchange be encountered with exits for another interchange?
    Reworded. Dough4872 01:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  13. The next sentence has no end punctuation.
    Added. Dough4872 01:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  14. The last sentence of the subsection reads a bit choppy, to be honest, and it does not start with a capital letter.
    Fixed. Dough4872 01:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  15. The freeway cannot end and become an arterial highway at the same time. The route itself does, but the freeway does not.
    Fixed. Dough4872 01:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  16. I have no issues with specificity, but isn't naming all of the roads the highway crosses in a list separated by commas a little much? It just adds unneeded fluff to the prose and drags out the paragraphs even longer.
    Cut down on mention of intersections. Dough4872 01:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  17. "After the interchanges with County Routes 535 (Cranbury Road).," Uggh...first of all, why is "Route" pluralized when you use the noun again just after this, and why are there two punctuation marks when you don't need any?
    Fixed. Dough4872 01:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  18. "Blvd." should be written out.
    Spelled out. Dough4872 01:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  19. Why does it matter which ramps Route 18 is near when it passes under the turnpike?
    Fixed. Dough4872 01:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  20. The last sentence is kind of abrupt. What I mean by that is that you could expand on it a bit by mentioning which direction the roadway expands in and where toward.
    Expanded. Dough4872 01:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well that's it for the lead and RD. I want you to fix this stuff before I move on to further sections. TCN7JM 00:48, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I will fix these in the next couple days. Dough4872 01:12, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Fixes made. Dough4872 01:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
History and onwards
  1. The first sentence needs to be split, it's nearly three lines long.
    Split. Dough4872 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  2. "implemented an in law" is a bit redundant seeing as the system was implemented into the law.
    Removed. Dough4872 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  3. That sentence, by the way, is another run on.
    Split. Dough4872 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  4. The "direction of designation" stuff is interesting, but it would be nice if it was written more formally.
    Reworded. Dough4872 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  5. So...Route 35 became a part of Route 18 or just the cancelled freeway? Elaborate a bit on which of those it was as well as what part of Route 18 it became.
    Route 35 currently follows a surface alignment through the area but was planned to be rerouted onto a new freeway alignment. Clarified. Dough4872 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Why is "from U.S. Route 1" in parentheses?
    Fixed. Dough4872 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  7. A conversion template should be used to convert USD in 1962 to those in the latest possible date supported by the template. That the numbers from 1962 are in 1962 USD is a given.
    Added conversion template. Dough4872 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  8. Do you have an exact year for the cancellation of the extension to Bound Brook?
    No. Dough4872 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  9. 2.3 miles → 2.3-mile
    Fixed. Dough4872 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  10. A period and a comma are next to each other somewhere.
    Fixed. Dough4872 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  11. The second sentence of the "Extension through Piscataway" subsection is not a complete sentence.
    Fixed. Dough4872 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  12. "Interstate 287 (interchange 8)" - Does this mean "exit 8"? If so, just use that term and try to avoid the parentheses.
    Fixed. Dough4872 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  13. The first sentence of the third paragraph in the aforementioned section is not grammatically correct.
    Reworded. Dough4872 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  14. The 34/35/70 image caption looks to be a bit too long, and the last sentence of it, because it is a complete sentence, needs a period.
    Cut down on caption. Dough4872 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  15. "Some of the right-of-way were" → "Some of the right-of-way was"
    Fixed. Dough4872 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  16. Complext? That has to be a misspelling.
    Fixed. Dough4872 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  17. You should get rid of that one usage of "current" referring to the Park & Ride.
    Removed. Dough4872 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  18. I think that subheader can ditch the comma and read "New exit ramp in Old Bridge Township".
    Changed. Dough4872 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  19. I don't think you need to mention what looks like the exact directions of getting through the residential area.
    Removed. Dough4872 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  20. In the CR 527 parentheses section, why is Monmouth County mentioned twice?
    Removed. Dough4872 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  21. "Rt 18" needs to be spelled out.
    Spelled out. Dough4872 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  22. You're a bit inconsistent in your capitalization of things. Namely, the "freeway" in "Route 18 Freeway". There's one that doesn't look like it should be capitalized at all, the last word in "Old Bridge Improvements".
    Fixed. Dough4872 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  23. The second-to-last sentence in the section needs some commas.
    Added. Dough4872 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  24. The last sentence sounds wrong because there needs to be a preposition between "NJDOT" and "when".
    Added. Dough4872 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That looks to be it for me. TCN7JM 02:05, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fixes made. Dough4872 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep at GA level - My concerns have been addressed and this one looks good now. TCN7JM 03:26, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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