Talk:New Policies (Song dynasty)

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i was surprised that this page didn't already independantly exist, only within the Wang Anshi page so i coppied it from there. major adjustments are needed.

The reason why the reforms failed[edit]

Because to a certain extent, the reform was out of date, the actual operation effect was not good, and people opposed it. The fundamental reason is that the policies touched the interests of nobles and landlords, they severely opposed these policies. The above paragraph must be added. This is true and well-documented. Chinese historical documents and textbooks are written in this way. That's actually the case. Xiaofan123456 (talk) 13:21, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Xiaofan123456, I think that the main problem is that it's not clear what you are trying to say. For example, what does it mean that the reform was "out of date" and what is "operation effect"? Alaexis_¿question? 16:14, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Cambridge History of China (volume 5, part 2, p. 152) reads as follows

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Nevertheless, these and other reforms aroused very powerful opposition throughout oficialdom. Ideological positions on, for example, the role the government should or should not play in economic affairs undoubtedly played a part. But it is hard to resist the feeling that the very process of implementing the reforms proved to be the major obstacle to their success. Wang, supremely conident that his policies conformed to the principles established by the sages (sheng-jen), made a series of mistakes that have frequently bedeviled even the best of policies, in China and elsewhere.30 In the irst place, instead of an incremental, gradual implementation of the policies,Wang hit the bureaucracy with a rapid series of major innovations, triggering widespread opposition that also grew with great speed.31 Moreover, believing that policies properly grounded in the teachings of the sages must of necessity have good results,Wang was not given to reconsiderations when certain measures did not work out well or produced unintended consequences. Nor was he open to critical advice from below which might have led to a smoother implementation of better-designed policies.

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Did you refer to these operational difficulties? Alaexis_¿question? 16:18, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]