Talk:Nocturnal emission/Archive 2

Nocturnal, night

The name is really misleading. It happens during sleep, but not necessarily during night. --2.245.133.120 (talk) 17:08, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the remark, you are probably right. Necessary seems to be a "REM sleep". Rapid eye movement sleep (REM or Dream sleep) may, for some individuals and sometimes, occur in a afternoon nap / midday sleep. On the other hand: most often nocturnal emissions will occur during the nights ... so in my opinion it is quite ok to use the word nocturnal further on. 2003:E8:5BC8:D092:3D44:9ACA:F195:D1B9 (talk) 22:36, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

The same concern plagues the technical term "nocturnal enuresis." "Nocturnal" in both cases really just means "while asleep" and not specifically "at night," although a majority of people sleep at night and therefore most bedwetting and wet dreams occur at night as well. Similarly, the lay term "wet dream" contains the assumption that a "dream" is involved, and in some cases no dream is recalled at all, sexual or otherwise, or any associated sensations, so it was "wet," but there was no "dream." "Somnial emission" or "Somnial ejaculation" would be more accurate terms. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:82:c381:84f0:8f7:b482:66f0:7438 (talk) 2601:82:c381:84f0:8f7:b482:66f0:7438 (UTC)

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Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 21:51, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

12 yo boy underwear like child porn!

Deeply disturbing that a picture of a highly underage child's soiled garments are on the web for all to see. I think some sickos out there would like it a little too much and it doesn't make the point or define the term any more clearly. I looked this up bc I soiled my sheets last night in this way and I'm almost 30. Use a more appropriate picture! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.153.49.253 (talk) 13:07, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

I've deleted the image from the article, since it adds nothing. As you can see below, the file has been nominated for deletion on WikiMedia Commons. ViolaPlayer (talk) 08:48, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

I just wrote this comment on the deletion page (where it said not to edit or add new content!) so maybe this is a better location for it. I will copy it below. But in reading your comment above it seems it is the age of the person who left the stain that is in question, assuming such a thing can be verified. So it seems more the NATURE of the stain is in question. Were it a blood stain or urine stain on a mattress, would it matter if it was left by a child or adult, if they aren't in the image? And since the wet dream is involuntary, it hardly qualifies as sexual "behavior." So maybe the best solution would be an image produced by someone older? But again, how would one verify such a thing? Anyway, here was my comment:

I am unfamiliar with any reconsideration process and can't seem to figure out the method prescribed above. I don't intend to start a debate, and I have no stake in the image being restated since it wasn't mine and I haven't seen it. But I thought there at least ought to be one comment on record in favor of keeping it. For one, if there are a significant number of teens who like me were very naive about wet dreams and perhaps through hastily or poorly delivered talks during sex ed class was led to believe that a wet dream would yield damage more akin to a bedwetting accident, and thus may be relieved to discover by comparison it is much smaller a mess, then it could be helpful. Beyond that I agree the educational value is dubious and we can only take at their word the age of the dreamer and/or poster and indeed if it documents a legitimate wed dream aftermath. Regarding the argument that a "depiction that 'involves the use' of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct" describes the image in question would be like saying that an image of a sweat-soaked shirt depicts someone engaging in athletic activity.