Talk:Nocturne (painting)

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No mention of John Atkinson Grimshaw? Whistler himself acknowledged Grimshaw as the father of the Nocturne.

Just a side comment about this - if anyone reads this and wonders about it: Nocturnes are not a movement but a term which could mean: 1) a night painting (generally), or 2) Whistlers approach to painted a veiled depiction. So, there's no "father" of nocturnes.--CaroleHenson (talk) 19:41, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Archived non-applicable comments as the article needed to be rewritten

Nocturnes by artists of other movements[edit]

Now that the American artists are moved over to an article specific to American artists, what remains are some Victorian artists and Impressionists. Since this is not a thorough representation of the artists that did nocturnes - what should be done with this list?

Other artists who also created nocturne scenes are:

Jacob van Ruisdael (1628–1682), Landscape with Church (circa 1660)]
Jacob van Ruisdael, Landscape (circa 1665)
Augustus Leopold Egg (1816–1863), Past and Present Number Three (circa 1853)]
Edgar Degas (1834–1917), Interior (nicknamed The Rape) (1868–69), Philadelphia Museum of Art
Vincent van Gogh (1853-1890), Starry Night Over the Rhone (1888)

Thanks!--CaroleHenson (talk) 08:38, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Article likely needs more help[edit]

This article contained content that was about 80% about American artists. So a new article was created Nocturne (American paintings)

I'm still not sure how appropriate the content and selection of images are, though. Any direction would be great!--CaroleHenson (talk) 09:27, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Copy paste?[edit]

I had added this tag, but it may be that it's the reverse - that the information in the e-book came from WP. {{Copy paste|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=yGwiT6nhbMcC&pg=PT13|date=August 2012}}

I thought I'd post it here, though, to scope it out.--CaroleHenson (talk) 09:44, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Merger proposal[edit]

@Ayapota, Modernist, and CaroleHenson: I propose merging Nocturne (painting) into Night in paintings (Western art). I think the content in Nocturne (painting) is already explained in the context of Night in paintings (Western art) and a merger would not cause any article-size or weighting problems in Night in paintings (Western art) where this content is almost duplicated, and a redirect can employed for Nocturne (painting) Jamesmcardle^(talk) 23:27, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have looked through both articles and the layout is different, but I can see how the artist-based sections in Nocturne (painting) could be merged into the century, then artist based format in Night in paintings (Western art). If you are up for it, it makes sense to me.–CaroleHenson (talk) 05:00, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is NOT a valid merger proposal! Johnbod (talk) 05:30, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:PUFFERY[edit]

From the Rembrandt section:

"In northern Europe, the Dutch Golden Age produced one of the greatest artists of all time."

Clear and textbook case of MOS:PUFFERY. Can someone revise this statement. — I'ma editor2022 ^{(🗣️💬 |📖📚)} 22:35, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, it isn't. But almost everything else about the section was wrong. Sorted. Johnbod (talk) 05:29, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]