Talk:Norma (given name)

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This article was nominated for deletion on 7 September 2008. The result of the discussion was keep.

Getting the page started[edit]

1) The layout for the Linda page has advantages over that existing one for Norma. It's organized into sections, which helps avoid adding duplicate entries. Sections make it easier for readers to find entries, and also, of course, make it easier to find vandalism. (Sometimes vandals will just affix names to the top or bottom of articles, not wanting to be bothered.)

Also notice what's "wrong" about the Linda page: people have started to add entries at the top which should be categorized as all the other entries are.Piano non troppo (talk) 12:13, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2) Start the article out right by adding entries, yourself: Leave the Wiki search box empty, and click "Search". In the edit box, type "Norma". I see several useful "Norma" entries, right away.

3) As for "what Norma really means". Linguistically, the origin of personal names has unique problems. Sometimes, they are quite obvious: "Smith"...well...one would have to stretch to find evidence it means anything else than "someone who forges metal".

This reference looks ok for "Norma": http://www.geocities.com/edgarbook/names/n/norma.html After reading that article for a few moments, you'll notice that it gives two, three, or perhaps more "meanings" to Norma. Is it the feminine of "Norman"? Or a name created from whole cloth by Felice Romani? Or does it mean "pattern" from the Latin? The "safest" for the Wiki article? Give all three. (Organize them better than they are in www.geocities.com. Lol. )

Don't miss that the editor of that article cited a work that's better than some random Web site of popular names, that is The Penguin Dictionary of First Names. Other editors are less likely to quibble with a definition from a good, published source.

If I had to bet hard money, the Latin-related meaning is the oldest. Here's what the very authoritative Oxford English Dictionary says about a thing called a norma: "Latin, norma, carpenter's or mason's square; hence, pattern, rule, etc." Drawing a comparison between someone and a device used to measure being "true"? Oh, yeah, that's right in there. Piano non troppo (talk) 11:52, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Norman[edit]

Excellent information, Miss Piano. The name "Norma" appears having connections with "Norman" in some way although that should be verified extremely close with an information source before any connections can be made. Neurotic heart (talk) 18:32, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Extended editions of Norma[edit]

Before anybody considers deleting this, you must look the following sources:

Norma Desmond-the character in Sunset Boulevard
Norma Jeane Baker-the official biological birth name for Marilyn Monroe
Norma Jeane Mortensen (Marilyn Monroe; second name)
Norma Bates (Passions, played from Marianne Muellerleile)
Norma Shearer-late actress
Norma Egstrom-Peggy Lee (late singer, famous actress and songwriter)

Please view these sources carefully. Neurotic heart (talk) 20:01, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks to me like you've created a pretty popular page. Congrads! Piano non troppo (talk) 06:34, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]