Talk:Norma Meras Swenson

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Notes[edit]

Hi Gzablocki01, I have a few notes for you:

The first is that this needs some independent sourcing. It looks like most of the sourcing is primary, meaning that it was written by Swenson or a person or organization affiliated with her. Be careful with sourcing such as the piece written by the American Society on Aging - some of these organizations tend to write heavily about their members, so you need to make sure that this isn't the case, as this would be a primary source if she was a member. The same thing goes for the film - if Swenson helped create the film it would likely be considered a primary source. Another issue with using films is that you also have to show where the film is notable enough to show notability for Swenson. In any case, sourcing that is independent and reliable is very important since you need to show where there's coverage that focuses specifically on her, as you need to show where she's independently notable outside of Our Bodies, Ourselves. This is one of my main concerns, since it looks like she's predominantly known for her work with them.

The second note is that the article is written with a very pro-Swenson viewpoint and as such, comes across as promotional. While this is almost certainly unintentional, you need to be extremely careful to make sure that the article is written neutrally and doesn't contain any wording that would promote the person in a favorable light. An example of this is the sentence "In 1970, Swenson along with twelve other women, embarked on a journey that would influence women's history." This is seen as "puffery" on Wikipedia. While yes, their actions would have an impact, it's written in such a way that it can come across as a bit of an opinion. Some may argue that this is absolutely true while others would say that their influence wasn't so big that it influenced all of women's history from all over the world. (IE, OBO may not be seen to have much or any influence on women's history in certain countries or cultures.)

I do recommend continuing on, just be very careful of these two elements. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:57, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The reason I'm specifically stating that she needs to show where she's notable outside of Our Bodies, Ourselves is because notability is not inherited by someone being affiliated with a notable project, organization, or so on. So for example, if an author is really only known for one book and there isn't really any coverage on the author themselves, Wikipedia leans towards only having an article on one and not the other. The only exception is when that person gains a lot of coverage that looks at them in-depth, as in the case of Harper Lee, where she (initially) only published one book but ended up having a lot of coverage that focused on her in specific and not just in relation to the book "To Kill a Mockingbird". Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:02, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi all, I'm removing the tags warning of the article's bias as I feel that the article's problems have been fixed. Shshepherd0 (talk) 18:32, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]