Talk:Northern Expressway

Fixes

This article is helpful, but I've tried to improve it.

• I've made it clearer that the Northern Connector does not yet exist
• The actual suburb where it joins is Waterloo Corner, so I've added that in a couple of places. I wonder if we should be even more explicit: "just south of Brown Road, Waterloo corner". (See the map here [1]) Thoughts? Adpete (talk) Adpete (talk) 02:18, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

also the map of the proposed Northern Connector shows a number of proposed exits.[2] Therefore I think it's better to remove the Northern Connector from the table entirely. Any list of exits is incomplete and/or subject to change, and it confuses the table. Adpete (talk) 03:56, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

OK, looking at the article history, there was originally a line in the table about the northern connector,[3] which then got wikified.[4] So by incremental edits, something not-very-sensible ended up in the table. So I'll just delete the Northern Connector part altogether (from the table) - it's just confusing and misleading. Adpete (talk) 04:20, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, another question. It says, "a faster route between Adelaide and Gawler". I suspect this is true, but I can't find that claim in the references, they just talk about faster access from Gawler (and the Sturt Highway in general) to Port Adelaide and South Road (see e.g. here[5]) Adpete (talk) 10:19, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

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Rename to Northern Expressway

I believe the article has the wrong name. Northern Expressway is by far the most well known name for this road and this article suggests that Northern Expressway is the official name of the road. The article mentions that the road has a dual name similar to Victoria Square, so I would suggest that the article should start "The Northern Expressway (route M20), also known as the Fatchen Northern Expressway, is..." GK1 (talk) 06:35, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

DPTI (State Government) calls it "Northern Expressway" (location.sa.gov.au, use the Roads dataset layer), that would be authoritative as it is a State Road, so they get naming rights. I wonder where Max Fatchen Expressway came from? There is a possibility though that their database hasn't been updated for the name change. Alex Sims (talk) 09:32, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

I think the article GK1 linked seems to explain the situation (and is the most sensible solution). "Max Fatchen Expressway" seems like an editorial cockup - plenty of sources for its renaming after Fatchen in 2013, but apparently someone missed what exactly they renamed it to ("Fatchen Northern Expressway"). The Drover's Wife (talk) 11:02, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

I will try to pay attention to the signs next time I use the road. I have not noticed "Fatchen Northern Expressway" used as a name, it is generally either Northern Expressway or Max Fatchen Expressway (as in this press release from a group including the Premier). Google Maps also uses Max Fatchen Expressway, but they might be following us. It does look like a name change was never gazetted and the legal name is still Northern Expressway. --Scott Davis ^Talk 13:33, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

I use the southern half of the road regularly and there is one brown "tourist" sign near the start that says "The Fatchen Northern Expressway" (see here). All the green signs use the name "Northern Expressway". I've never seen a sign that says "Max Fatchen Expressway".

I'm pretty sure that Google Maps has only very recently changed the name to "Max Fatchen Expressway". GK1 (talk) 21:27, 28 October 2016 (UTC)