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Conflict of Interest Query from a Newbie[edit]

I currently work at Notre Dame Law School and would like to request corrections and edits to this page -- in a transparent fashion and in compliance with Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines. I am new to Wikipedia and would appreciate the editors' guidance in this regard.

May I post my editing requests here? Or can I make factual corrections myself, and then post an explanation here? E.g., two of the professors listed in the "Notable Faculty" section of this article are no longer at Notre Dame: John J. Coughlin and Cathleen Kaveny. May I delete those names despite my affiliation with NDLS?

CFW1955 (talk) 22:51, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

First off, I thank you for disclosing your affiliation with NDLS prior to editing. It's absolutely acceptable for you to edit given this disclosure. My main advice to you would be to be careful about the risk of adding things that sound like marketing language/advertising copy. In looking at your edits to this page so far, I see much the opposite: This removal, for instance, got rid of the sort of unreferenced claim that is sometimes problematic among affiliated editors. If, however, there is an edit that you're uncomfortable making yourself, particularly where you're concerned that your affiliation with NDLS would bring that edit into question, you can feel free to request an edit here. If you add {{request edit}} at the top of the request, it will add your request to a list of pages with requested edits (which should shorten the amount of time before a response). I've also left a welcome message at your user talk page, which includes several links to topics you may find relevant to your editing. —/Mendaliv/2¢/Δ's/ 20:08, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again, Mendaliv. Tomorrow I will use the "request edit" tag & then list some "pls. change this to that" edits but with a note to the effect that if the updates are approved & the editors would rather I implemented them myself, I would be glad to do so. CFW1955 (talk) 00:17, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks all for your guidance. If the editors approve the following edits but would rather I implemented them myself I would be glad to do so:

(1) In the first graf, please:

change

According to Notre Dame's 2013 ABA-required disclosures, 71.7% of the Class of 2013 obtained full-time, long-term, JD-required employment nine months after graduation.

To

According to Notre Dame's 2014 ABA-required disclosures, 78.8% (141/179) of the Class of 2014 obtained full-time, long-term, JD-required employment nine months after graduation; 85.5% (153/179) obtained either full-time, long-term JD-required or JD-advantage jobs (jobs that did not require an active law license but for which the employer sought an individual with a J.D. or for which the J.D. provided a demonstrable advantage in obtaining or performing). [CITE www3.nd.edu/~ndlaw/career/employment/Classof2014ABAWorksheet.pdf]

(2) change

Notre Dame Law ranks 16th in graduates attaining Supreme Court clerkships in recent years.[4]

To

Notre Dame Law ranks 17th in per capita placement of graduates obtaining Supreme Court clerkships in recent years. [CITE: www.leiterrankings.com/new/2013_SCClerkshipPlacement.shtml] In June 2013 U.S. News ranked NDLS 8th in the nation for the percent of 2012 employed J.D. grads with federal judicial clerkships. [CITE http://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/college-rankings-blog/2014/06/12/grads-of-these-law-schools-get-the-most-judicial-clerkships.]

(3) Under “Admissions and Rankings” In the second sentence, please:

change

2013

to

2014

so as to make the sentence read: The 25th and 75th LSAT percentiles for the 2014 entering class were 160 and 165, respectively, with a median of 163.[6]

(4) To eliminate repetition of rankings info (the Law School’s rankings currently are included in both the first paragraph of the article and then again under “Admissions and Rankings”) I would

(5) Change

the heading that now reads “Admissions and Rankings”

to

“Admissions and Degrees Offered”

(6) Delete

the second paragraph under Admissions and Degrees offered (Notre Dame Law School is ranked 22nd in the nation …” etc.)

(7) In the last sentence of Admissions and Degrees Offered,

Change

the last sentence, which currently reads: The Law School grants the professional Juris Doctor degree as well as the graduate Master of Laws and Doctor of Juridical Science degrees.

To

The Law School grants the professional Juris Doctor degree, the graduate Master of Laws and Doctor of Juridical Science degrees, dual degrees (J.D./M.B.A., J.D./M.A. in English, and J.D./Master of Engineering), a Master of Science in Patent Law, and a Certificate in Patent Prosecution.

CFW1955 (talk) 16:03, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It seems that some of your sources are the school's site. Can you provide any third party sources to validate the information? If you can, I am happy to help with the edits SusanChana (talk) 00:19, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done Basically all your sources are primary sources, and there's enough questionably sourced content in the article already. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:53, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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According to the source[edit]

According to the website of the subject of this article it is "the nation’s oldest Roman Catholic law school". I respectfully submit to @Eccekevin: that his WP:OR cannot override the cited sources for this or any article, to please cease and desist edit-warring, and to restore the consensus version. Elizium23 (talk) 02:35, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The about and mission pages of the Law School describes itself as 'Catholic', not 'Roman Catholic'. Eccekevin (talk) 02:40, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Eccekevin, that's not at issue, it's the specific wording of the specific claim that you keep changing out. Elizium23 (talk) 02:42, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Clearly, as spelled out in the Mission Statement, the term is Catholic.Eccekevin (talk) 02:43, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Firstly, you have a conflict of interest that you have declared. Thank you for revealing this to us. Secondly, you are now on a crusade across Wikipedia to remove "Roman Catholic" because you falsely believe it is pejorative. We have told you that it is not, it is normative usage by many Catholics, many priests and bishops, dioceses, and religious institutes. I would again ask you to cease and desist on this, because you are acting from false assumptions. Elizium23 (talk) 02:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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