Talk:Ode on a Grecian Urn/GA1

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Hi. I'll be reviewing soon. :) Kaguya-chan (talk) 14:46, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, good. :) I should be around for discussion, fixes, etc. Ottava Rima (talk) 16:05, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Awesome.
GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
    There are a few confusing sentences and the lead seems a little short
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
    Maybe change "First Known Copy of "Ode on a Grecian Urn" transcribed..." to "First known copy of "Ode on a Grecian Urn" transcribed..."
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

Comments:

  • What is going on with the last part of "Sheley, Erin. Re-Imagining Olympus: Keats and the Mythology of Individual Consciousness. Harvard University. Reprinted on Romanticism on the NetNo. 45 Nov. 2007. [1]accessed Dec. 6, 2008"?
  • The lead seems a little short. Maybe add more about the critical consideration? Or interpretations of the poem? Or themes?
  • In the lead, "Its inspiration is partly considered to be a visit by Keats to the exhibition of the Elgin Marbles at the British Museum, and partly to the aesthetic theories of his friend, the painter Benjamin Haydon and Haydon's print collection of Grecian artworks." is confusing. So, Keats was inspired by a visit to the exhibition of the Elgin Marbles at the British Museum, and also by the aesthetic theories of his friend?
  • Source for "The ode is an ancient form originally written for musical accompaniment. In general, the ode of the Romantic genre is a poem of 30 to 200 lines that meditates progressively upon or directly addresses a single object or condition. Ode on a Grecian Urn follows a strict structural pattern with each stanza containing 10 lines with ten syllables. The complex rhyme scheme of the poem shows a high level of complexity common among odes of Keats’ time."
  • "because it is born from stone and made by the hand of an artist who does not communicate through words."

Will finish up review soon. Kaguya-chan (talk) 17:46, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Not sure what is going on with the punctuation in "In order to overcome this merged life and death paradox, the poem shifts to a new scene with a new perspective:[18]."
  • In Themes, "Likewise, he points to another paradox that arises when the narrator finds immortality on the side of an urn meant to carry the ashes of the dead." is missing a ref. "This reading of the text suggests levels of both jealousy and disdain as the narrator admires the simplicity of the world depicted by the urn but finds it incapable of providing deeper meaning." too.
  • For the first half of the article "Ode on a Grecian Urn" is used and from Themes and beyond Ode on a Grecian Urn is used. Which is it?
This is a really interesting article that a lot of research went into. :) I'm putting it on hold to give some time for the above to be sorted out. Kaguya-chan (talk) 18:24, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In order: 1. Fixed the link along with some other reference fixes. 2. Expanded the lead by approximately 4 lines. 3. Split the sentence into two and hopefully clarified. 4. Dropped the paragraph and added a new paragraph that should hopefully add more context. 5. I rewrote that part. 6. Apparently, the section was rewritten and the quote was given a new section. There was a period after the ref, but I fixed it by moving it forward. 7. It appears on my screen with [25]. I am unsure about what may have happened. I've removed the second sentence as I haven't a clue if it is just interpretation of the previous or what. 8. I switched them all over to quotation marks. Ottava Rima (talk) 19:04, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Since all the comments were addressed, I will now pass the article. Great job! Kaguya-chan (talk) 19:18, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]