Talk:Old Stock Americans

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Black People are Old-Stock Americans.[edit]

The ancestry of African-Americans is ALL colonial. They were part of the founding of the U.S - there's no historical reason why they shouldn't be considered Old Stock or Colonial American. 2603:7000:9306:F025:DDA:B3CD:FDED:8955 (talk) 03:51, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is pretty much a racial term but if you can provide a source we can talk..... But I suggest you read the sources here and over at American ancestry Moxy- 04:07, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You will not win this argument. There are many sources that define "Old Stock Americans" as all people of colonial descent white or black. Black Americans are a quintessentially American ethnic group that were here since the founding of this nation. There's no logical reason why they would not be. 2603:7000:9306:F025:DDA:B3CD:FDED:8955 (talk) 04:10, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Show us one pls. I suggest some basic reading...Building the myth of Black inferiority. Moxy- 04:17, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ohh, I will. There are many. You've started a war. Who was here in the Colonial period? Think about it. You cannot erase black Americans. They're more American that whites. 2603:7000:9306:F025:DDA:B3CD:FDED:8955 (talk) 04:22, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Article is not about who was here but a term of art for the old white majority that dominated politics with the suppression of visible minorities and those of a different religion. "Becoming Old Stock: The Paradox of German-American Identity". Department of History. 2016-11-23. Retrieved 2023-11-25. Moxy- 04:56, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The term old stock American is defined as Americans with Ancestry in the colonial period. I already found 3 sources that include black people in the definition "those Americans, both black and white, whose ancestry dates from Colonial America" - from a Texas genealogy book 1976. You are going to lose this argument. I'm also going to add a subsection for Black Americans - who are the most American ethnic group by ancestry. 2603:7000:9306:F025:DDA:B3CD:FDED:8955 (talk) 05:07, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You might as well get ready - it's coming. LOL. 2603:7000:9306:F025:DDA:B3CD:FDED:8955 (talk) 05:10, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's not about winning or losing.... it's about regurgitating the sources. Moxy- 05:21, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Will do. There's even sources that call black people "old stock Anglo-American" from the 1950s. These are typically genealogy books. Don't be surprised when this page changes to rightfully include the MOST American ethnic group in the U.S. 2603:7000:9306:F025:DDA:B3CD:FDED:8955 (talk) 05:25, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Rjensen: anyway you can bring some insight or sources either way to this conversation?Moxy- 06:06, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Moxy has by far the best of this little argument. Anon has not found any published sources that support his imaginary case. Rjensen (talk) 10:55, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Rjensen "imaginary"? So I just imagined that black people were here in the Colonial period? LOL. OK. This is going to be funny when it drops. 2603:7000:9306:F025:78A6:E091:BDDF:D23 (talk) 00:41, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Lewis, David Levering. "The Race to War / CLICK HERE READ ME".... Moxy- 02:31, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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