Talk:On the Mindless Menace of Violence

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Sources and whatnot[edit]

Of relevance:

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[5] -Indy beetle (talk) 02:32, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
[6] -Indy beetle (talk) 04:05, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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MOS:TENSE[edit]

A speech is a creative work that exists in the present, and per the MOS:TENSE guideline, we speak about it in the present tense. For reference and consistency, see I Have a Dream, which "is a public speech" whose summary treats it in present tense. This is the same across books, films, songs, etc. whether they be works of fiction or non-fiction. If, at some point in the future, all copies of the speech are lost, and we only know it through reconstruction by proximate sources, then we can entertain a conversation on the use of past tense. 2600:8800:1880:91E:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 17:34, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

To note, a speech is indeed a creative work, but this article frames it in its original delivery, making the article about an event as much as it is about the text. This is somewhat unique to speeches, since they're usually only delivered once (notable ones at least, regular campaign speeches get recycled), and I think it's foolish to divorce the piece of paper from the place, time, and audience in which it was spoken to. -Indy beetle (talk) 11:47, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]