Talk:One by One (Foo Fighters album)/GA1

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Reviewer: Wikipedian Penguin (talk · contribs) 13:19, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Starting soon. This is one of the longer articles I'll be reviewing, so it's most likely I'll be copy editing as I go. Feel free to revert. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 13:19, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sources and spotcheck

  • I know GA criteria does not ask for absolutely perfect references--which and this article definitely does not have--but I think you should add accessdates for all online references. In the case that one of them dies, you will at least know, when the information was retrieved.
  • Ref 8 does not support that the studio was in Topanga.
    • Added one that supports.
  • Ref 10 does not support quotation.
    • Excuse me? The whole section is adapted from the article on Raskulinewicz linked there!
      • It's ref 11 now, the MusicRadar one. I think the quotation about "commit to sitting in his basement for four months" is on page 2 of the article, not page 1. Please specify. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 20:19, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • I put pp. 2-3, it's that enough?
  • "One by One was considered the band's heaviest up to that point, with Grohl describing the sound of it as 'different than anything we've ever done in that it is darker and more aggressive'." – needs inline citation.
    • Done.
  • "Grohl said the album was 'all about the energy of playing live'" – quotation marks should surround "the album was all about the energy of playing live" per source.
    • Done.
  • The article is a bit too heavy on quotations. I suggest heavy copyediting throughout.
    • Any suggestions?
      • I see some quotations simply unnecessary and verbatim. A few examples:
        • "Regarding his choice, the producer speculated Grohl 'was having a hard time finding a guy who would commit to sitting in his basement for four months', and eventually picked Raskulinewicz because 'Dave liked my energy and enthusiasm' and 'could tell I was a fan'". Can be written as "The producer speculated that Grohl, having found difficulty in choosing someone 'who would commit to sitting in his basement for four months', eventually picked Raskulinewicz for his energetic and enthusiastic nature."
        • "... declaring that when he considered the rough mixes 'sucked a lot of the life out of the songs' and 'sound[e]d like another band playing our songs'." --> "... declaring that when he considered the rough mixes "sucked a lot of the life out of the songs" and "sound[e]d like another band playing our songs"." – this is a actually a bit confusing. "declaring that"? Do you mean "realizing this"...
        • The last paragraph in the Production section alone 35 words in quotation.
        • "... with Grohl describing the sound of it as "different than anything we've ever done in that it is darker and more aggressive"." can be "...as Grohl described the sound as a darker and more aggressive approach as opposed to the band's usual work." (needs source btw)
        • I think the best thing to do would be for me to get in there and do some paraphrasing myself and I'll list concerns that you may be better at addressing. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 18:51, 30 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        • Changed those, are there any more examples? igordebraga ≠ 17:36, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • What makes this a reliable source? Or this?
  • Looks good.

Comments

  • What exactly does "working the demos" mean?
  • "The sessions took four months and were at the cost of over $500,000." – What currency? US dollars? —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 19:57, 30 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done those. Anything else? igordebraga ≠ 17:36, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • "The band also showed disappointment with the ten tracks that came out of the sessions, as Hawkins described them as 'million-dollar demos'". - If he was disappointed, why did he describe them as "million-dollar demos"? Isn't that supposed to be a positive remark?
    • Well, if they were supposed to be the finished tracks, calling them demos means dissapointment!
  • "One by One was considered the band's heaviest up to that point" – Up to what point? Describe a specific period of time.
  • "...and the short period during which the re-recordings were done." needs direct inline citation.
  • This sentence is probably a bit too long and needs to be trimmed or split: "Grohl would usually write the lyrics after finishing the vocal track for another song,[4] and the singer said that despite the angry content of some lyrics, he drew no inspiration from Courtney Love—with whom he had arguments and lawsuits regarding Nirvana, the band on which Grohl and Love's late husband Kurt Cobain played—to which he was surprised as derogatory references to Love usually "snuck in" in songs such as "I'll Stick Around" and "Stacked Actors"."
  • The composition needs a reduction on quotations. I'm hoping you can do that in fear that I might incorrectly interpret something. Thank you. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 17:58, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Done those too... though you might comment if there's any quotation you still question. igordebraga ≠ 18:31, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • It's still a bit too dense in quotations. Try and find some easy ones to paraphrase. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 19:06, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        • You mean on Reception or elsewhere? igordebraga ≠ 16:00, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
          • Sure! I'd love to do some paraphrasing myself, but your pitching in to help is always appreciated. You're the nominator after all. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 16:07, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • Cut some reviewer quotes, anything else? igordebraga ≠ 03:51, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Eric Carr of Pitchfork Media was much critical of the album," – much what? More? Do you mean "very critical" instead?
  • "... and Shiflett said in One by One 'there are great songs there, and then there are... parts of great songs'." How did he say something in One by One?
  • Tables in the Charts and certification need to be formatted by WP:ACCESS. That is to say, the class should be "wikitable sortable plainrowheaders" and a "!scope=row" must precede each item in the first column.
  • Looks good —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 19:05, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Images, stability and neutrality

  • Images have suitable captions and sources and non-free image has good fair-use rationale. There has not been any major issues with neutrality or edit disputes either. Looks good.

Final

  • Good article.

Done those last ones. igordebraga ≠ 01:35, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think all aspects of the GA criteria have been covered. I would recommend you clean up the reference formatting and dig for some more information on the chart performance and sales. However, the article's good enough as is for GA. Great work and may there be more. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 11:30, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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