Talk:Operation Definite Victory

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Use of SL Military sources[edit]

Of course the article relies on military sources. There is nothing wrong with that as the military is the only way to get information in that area. For one there are no independent observers in these areas and as usual, when the LTTE are totally humiliated, they and their mouthpieces like Tamilnet pretend nothing ever happened. The only LTTE statement was that the government "took some pieces of land" or something like that and Tamilnet only reported on the first day that the STF attacked LTTE camps in Ampara and were "repulsed" and chose to completely ignore it afterwards to cover their utter humiliation.

So Tyron I'll clean up the article a little and take away the tag as it is not appropriate here. If you want you are more than welcome to find neutral sources for this article and add them here. --snowolfD4^{( talk / @ )} 16:23, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

On the contrary, there is a lot wrong relying on just one of the combatants for information about a civil war. The allegations made by the military are frankly, preposterous. Certainly the LTTE has been guilty of many crimes over the years, but -- elephant poaching? Cannabis trading? Torture chambers? All this smacks of war propaganda. One of the news agency articles cited also states that the military offered little actual proof of any of this. Indeed, I have found no non-military sources for the fourth paragraph. If none can be found, it should be removed. Tyronen 06:17, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If these allegations are so preposterous and the LTTE are so angelic they do no such things, where do you think they get money from, apart from the diaspora? Handcrafts maybe? They were found to be involved in credit card fraud in Britain, and have long been accused of drug trafficking, which is not far from that. And you dispute the LTTE have torture chambers? Maybe Saddam Hussain didn't have them either and the US army was just lying and we shouldn't believe such stuff too.

The best (actually only) source of information about this operation is the military, and we have no choice but to use them.--snowolfD4^{( talk / @ )} 05:33, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually the US did lie about Saddam, but that is another story. Nobody said that the LTTE was angelic, or even that it does not practice torture or drug trafficking. I know someone who was a victim of their credit card fraud. The point is that these specific allegations have no real proof to them, and come from a source with a long history of issuing outlandish war propaganda.

I have found some other issues:

- the IHT article says the military offered no proof, and that the LTTE denied the allegations. I've added this to the article.

- the Hindustan Times story (linked to twice) and the Washington Post story are dead links. I have removed them.

- Of the links that do work, I did not see any - not even the Ministry of Defence pages - that describe "kennel-like iron grills" used for child soldiers. I have removed that phrase.

Tyronen 19:58, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Moved the article[edit]

Hi I moved the article to the correct English Translation, as many people would search for the article by the English terms in English wikipedia. ŇëŧΜǒńğëŗ^Talk 11:55, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]