Talk:Origin of the Bhagavata Purana

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Feedback from New Page Review process[edit]

I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Thank you for this informative new article, but I wonder if the title is accurate. The article does not actually nail down the book's origin, but instead lists research on or theories of that origin. This should be evident in the article's title in some fashion. I will leave it to the experts, but for pointers see WP:NAMINGCRITERIA..

---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 23:27, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Violation of wikipedia's neutral point of view policy WP:NPOV[edit]

This article presents a lot of things in wikipedia's voice without any further references thus violating WP:NPOV and WP:OR. The author of a wikipedia article is not supposed to present his views or original research in the article without references. This article exactly does so. Moreover, a new article Origin of the Bhagavata Purana is created (to 'evade the neutrality policy') , the subject matter of which is already dealt with in the article Bhagavata Purana WP:NPOVVIEW. This article should either be deleted or modified accordingly as it clearly violates wikipedia policies. Taittiriya (talk) 15:37, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The quote from the work mentioned in footnote 13[edit]

The section on Yamuna begins with the following passage and it is followed by a quote from van Biutenen which supposedly appears on page 10, i.e. in the introduction to his translation of Yamuna's Agama Pramanyam.

That no known writings of Yamuna (circa 900 C.E.) referenced the Srimad Bhagavatam is inconclusive, although van Buitenen correctly notes that Yamuna was an orthodox Smarta that opposed the 'less-than-respectable Bhagavatas' (meaning 'devotees of Vishnu'): ...

I found this paragraph rather suspicious and I will explain why. Yamuna was not a Smarta, but a Vaishnava (that should be obvious, I think). Therefore, it is ludicrous to claim that he was opposed to the Bhagavatas, i.e. other Vaishnavas.

In order to check whether the quote was authentic or not, I opened p. 10 in the book, and did I find it? No. Then I looked at the last section of Agama Pramanya where Yamuna speaks about the Bhagavatas to see if he really criticised them. As I expected, I it turned out that he defended them. Therefore, I would suggest that this part simply be removed since it has nothing to do with the Bhagavata Purana. Or, we can replace what is currently written with what is actually true.

Of course, if the author of that section can tell us where he found that quote, it would be much appreciated. Goranper18 (talk) 16:00, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi There Goranper18,

Please do not delete stuff without properly checking the source! The link is right here: https://archive.org/details/AgamaPramanyamSktEng/page/7/mode/1up

Note that there is more than just one page 10. The link should take you to the correct one. If you download the pdf, you will find the quote on page 157. It is in the context of an objection, followed by a refutation. ::: Carlduff (talk) 20:54, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]