Talk:Over the Hills and Far Away (traditional song)

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I admit I am a bit lost - what wars does the text in the George Farquhar version refer to when mentioning "Through Flanders, Portugal and Spain"? I don't remener any other war than the Napoleonic one where Britain fought in these countries ... Who can help me? Olagorie 18:39, 16 August 2006 (UTC)olagorie[reply]

The song originated during the War of the Spanish Succession, during which British forces fought both in Spain and Portugal and in Flanders (under the Duke of Marlborough). The line "King George commands and we obey" was orginally "Queen Anne commands and we obey. Martin McCann 19:04, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've deleted what looked like a verbatim press release about a piece of art which shared the name of this song. There may be a better place for the subject of that press release, but I don't think it's on this page. Elperlman 14:14, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Nightwish" version[edit]

According to Nightwish - Highest Hopes (The Best Of Nightwish) this is not an original Nightwish rendition, but a cover of the Gary Moore version. I don't think this counts as "traditional" either, being a new arrangement with new lyrics. Gary Moore being alive and well still, this is still subject to copyright. Since this is non-free material I'm going to remove the lyrics for now. Thee darcy (talk) 20:47, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

D'Urfey version in Scots[edit]

No mention is made of the version recorded by D'Urfey being in Scots. If this is the earliest (or one of the earliest at least) known versions surely this is of significance, particularly as it is said to be in the article, and I had always assumed was, an English song. Mutt Lunker (talk) 14:28, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Adding a Roud index number?[edit]

・Why is it considered vandalism when all I did was connect England trad folk song with the England trad folks song database?42.147.210.206 (talk) 15:33, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello - I think I misunderstood what you were trying to accomplish, and I see that you were attempting to make a helpful contribution to the article. However, it appears that the article at Over the Hills and Far Away (traditional song), covers several different songs, not just the one listed at Roud Folk Song Index #8460. Mojo Hand (talk) 15:42, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

According to this page, https://mainlynorfolk.info/martin.carthy/songs/overthehills.html Over the Hills and Far Away (traditional song) is definitely listed as number 8460 in the Roud Folk Song Index . This database doesn't fit one lyric and one melody to one number but combines related melodies and lyrics into one number. please listen to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bs07OvqXp4 .To improve the Wilipedia page about English folksongs , this edit is meaningful . 42.147.210.206 (talk) 16:23, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not very familiar with the Roud index, but the link at mainlynorfolk.info suggests that versions of the song are listed at Roud 3098 and 8460. The Wikipedia article also refers to other apparently completely unrelated songs. I don't see that adding one Roud index number is particularly helpful to the Wikipedia article. Mojo Hand (talk) 16:45, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

maybe, i think you confuse Over the Hills and Far Away (disambiguation) and Over the Hills and Far Away (traditional song) .I did not suggest to add link of "roud" on disambiguation page which includes no relation songs with round database .At least , trad lyrics on Over the Hills and Far Away (traditional song) are involved in roud database(https://mainlynorfolk.info/martin.carthy/songs/overthehills.html) . Other english trad song`s pages like high germany and Spanish Ladies have also link of roud .I just tried to put a link like this pages or is this edit method wrong ? will you remove the links on these two pages as well?42.147.210.206 (talk) 17:18, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly I misunderstood what your initial edit was trying to do, and adding Roud numbers to British traditional songs is not a bad idea. However, I'm not sure it's a good idea in this specific article as there appear to be at least two songs with Roud index numbers (3098 and 8460) and the John Tams song being discussed. It's almost a second disambiguation page. I'm going to copy this discussion over to the article talk page, just in case anyone else has suggestions on this subject. Mojo Hand (talk) 21:43, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]